I'm REALLY Confused About Something

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by dvjordan, Jan 7, 2013.

  1. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    I was a L/O with Swift for 12 years...my last year the truck grossed 195k....that was one truck with Swift....much smaller income than a true independent O/O....plus, I didn't have all the expenses a true O/O does, Swift still carried some.....900K doesn't sound that great for gross with 3 trucks and 3 O/O leased into the picture.
     
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  3. dvjordan

    dvjordan Bobtail Member

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    Everything except the insurance.
     
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  4. dvjordan

    dvjordan Bobtail Member

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    I don't like sounding nuts, but apparently he cleared $70,000 in November after $30,000 in expenses were paid. He also purchased a couple pieces of equipment in 2012 to offset taxes. Do these numbers sound feasible?
     
  5. Njnoob

    Njnoob Light Load Member

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    ^^^^ THIS! My husband and I have a construction-related business. AFter paying everything and everyone else we were lucky to see maybe 75 out of nearly 300k.
     
  6. dvjordan

    dvjordan Bobtail Member

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    Thanks. That's the thing. His numbers look very good and he's clearing some great numbers. See the post above.
     
  7. dvjordan

    dvjordan Bobtail Member

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    I'm hoping to use a factoring agency.
     
  8. dvjordan

    dvjordan Bobtail Member

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    He has two paid-for trucks and 3 O/O.
     
  9. Calspring

    Calspring Light Load Member

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    I would really question those numbers. Unless he is hauling helium baloons I don't see how 5 trucks can use less than $30,000 in fuel in a month and still pay all of the drivers. I run two trucks, loaded heavy so I don't get great mileage and I am paying 5500-6000 a week in fuel. If you get 25% better mileage then I do and for 5 trucks that would mean that he should be paying somewhere in the neighbourhood of $40,000 just for fuel. Drivers wages if he is trying to just beat out the bottom feeders will take up at least another $20,000. Throw in insurance and a few repairs and he will net $30,000 before any finance or other costs assuming he made $100,000 for the month. but if you take an even approach to his revenue he would make around $75,000/month on average so he might actually only net $5000 or $60,000 a year, good money but nothing to brag about.

    If everybody could make money dispatching then everyone would be doing it. There are a few that have great contracts hauling dedicated routes with a few trucks and make a lot of money at it, but they are the exception not the rule.
     
  10. dvjordan

    dvjordan Bobtail Member

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    He's paying for fuel for two trucks. The other three are O/O.
     
  11. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

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    where this joker is making money is with the 15 per cent.

    i made more money with a leased on op paying a higher percentage to him than my competition, example bennett motor paid 65 per cent of linehaul on their mobile home towaway , i paid 75 per cent and didnt screw the drivers on permit charges like bennett. my guys avg was 2.40 a mile and bennett was 1.65 to 1.70 i paid more for escorts also. i reimbursed for rooms for my lease ops if they turned in receipt also.

    i had 2 trucks owned and 6 lease ops, i put in my pocket 4 to 5 grand a week off the lease ops, and maybe 600 a week off the 2 i owned, i paid my drivers .60 a mile also.


    then came 2008 and boom it was over. but i had saved money and put it away. if i had paid my guys like bennett i would be retired and in the carribean.


    yep that joker is making his money with the dispatch fees.


    if he had any sense he would sell his 2 trucks and lease on 2 guys
     
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