Individualized training not through a school

Discussion in 'Trucking Schools and CDL Training Forum' started by TulsaRiverside, Jan 2, 2012.

  1. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    The February 2013 FMCSA standard is a totally false statement you probably heard from a lying CDL mill instructor . The FMCSA hasn't even issued a final rule on training and the rule won't go into effect for 3 years after being issued .
    There have been posts on here confirming inexperienced drivers got jobs with beverage companies .
    I AM diminishing the value of your posts . Not a bit of factual information .
     
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  3. Nashville Driver

    Nashville Driver Medium Load Member

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    I never said inexperienced drivers do not get these beverage company jobs, just stated that in the major markets, where jobs are tight, these jobs are not getting filled by the inexpeirenced drivers as they have plenty of qualified drivers.........and I also stated that dragging a 45 foot trailer around town, will not magically provide the skills needed by the better paying companies in our industry or even accept that kind of experience.
    You are correct, there is not an exact date for the proposed new rules, just guideline (stated in the FMCSA information) But as I said, carriers and insurance companies are reacting to these proposed changes so what does tell you???

    I just hate these guys with with families, trying to better themselves, read your inaccurate information and thinking there is some short cut, that was my only point. I do agree with you on one point, some of these training companies are not best option. But you need some form of formal structured training, to get a decent job in this industry......period!

    Im done, so go ahead and discredit any and all of my information, just wanted to get my two cents in, not leaving the above statement, making me look like I dont know what Im talking about.

    For those following this....... here is a good summary of the proposal http://refrigeratedtrans.com/carriers-shippers/fmcsa_proposes_new_cdl_training_rules/ with a link to the FMCSA website.
     
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  4. turnanburn

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    In Vt, they passed a law requiring any one offering paid driver training to be licensed by the state. The state then requires a curriculum that matches the FMCSA proposed rule for CDL training. If someone wants "individual training" they need to take the whole course. 148 hours for an "A" cdl. The exception is you are allowed to 'lease" a truck to an individual for testing, but if that individual requires instruction, than you are required to give them the 148 hours. You can of course test in your own truck if you have one. The state even answers adds on craig's list if someone is offering training, to see if they are legit. So at least here, it is assumed the "proposed rule' will eventually become reality.
     
  5. Nashville Driver

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    I'm sure it will not be long and we will not have an individual state driver's license and just a government commercial driving ID, with the medical card intgrated. The sad thing is, as old Rick G pointed out... so many of these training schools are just mills and really do not prepare you very well for the road. I like Primes approach, where you take your permit on the road and get that one on one training. I wish there was a independant school that took this approach, but Im sure it would be cost prohiitive to create such a program. I just feel so bad for these new drivers, that can not back in at the truck stops or just plain freeze up on the first icy road, due improper or just plain not emough training. That makes it unsafe for us all. I hate all this the government regulation........but its a step in making sure we have more safe new drivers on the road.
     
  6. Gizmo_Man

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    You CAN do this, but frankly, WHY?

    There are expenses associated with a CDL license, one in particular would be a regular DOT physical you must have. Now, I think it is a new ruling(?) that every time you have a new DOT physical, you MUST bring the original to your state DMV or Secretary of State, so that it is proven you are medically qualified to operate a truck? AND if you do not do this every time your DOT is renewed, it is downgraded to a mere car license?

    Are you going to remember to do this? Are you going to have time during your very busy work week to take time off and make that trip to where ever you will need to go and do this?

    Perhaps someone else more familiar with this new ruling can chime in. But from my point of view?

    WHY?
     
  7. turnanburn

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    Yes, as of 1/30/12 the state will need your medical certificate to grant you a new license. Current holders have untill 2014, or whenever it's time to re-new to get with this new thing. You will no longer be required to carry the medical card once in the system. Find it at: 391.41(2)
     
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