Input on Swift Lease program??
Discussion in 'Swift' started by Jrivas23, Oct 21, 2018.
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Most lease programs, from anyone, is doomed to failure.
Not just Swift.bigjoel Thanks this. -
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With regards to me, this is my 2nd lease with Swift. I completed my 1st lease in Jan 2016, worked for 4 other trucking companies PLUS Swift (as an academy instructor) before leasing another truck.
I had a company driver tell me how she used to lease a truck but makes more money as a company driver. I also spoke with another O/O (25 years with Swift, on his 4th truck) who said "It's not about the money, it's about the freedom" which is my sentiment EXACTLY.
If you think leasing a truck will allow you the freedom to idle your truck as much as you want you're correct, but you'll never make any money. I averaged 7.65 mpg over the 4 years I had my first truck and last time I checked was averaging just over 7.8 with my current truck. THAT'S how I make money, by not spending it on fuel.
Also, I DO NOT consider it a "lease-purchase". The residual for my current truck in neary $60K at the end of my lease. The LAST thing I want to do is own a class 8 truck. Leasing makes the book keeping and tax time MUCH easier on those involved.
If you're happy as a company driver, GREAT! But unless you have first hand knowledge experience paying the bills on your own truck don't go around telling anyone who'll listen the "You're doomed for failure". -
It's not a "lease / purchase", it's a lease. There is NO PROVISION or guarantee that you'll be able to purchase your truck at the end of the lease. At best it's an "option".
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Working at a small company, and seeing the #s all the time, I can tell you.
Run the #s, CONSERVATIVE estimates, then see if it'll really pay much more than being a company driver. -
When I leased my first truck from Swift (IEL) in 2012 I doubled my pay overnight. What changed is Swift is actually paying their drivers a decent wage now (about 60% more than what I was making in 2012 as a company driver) yet O/O pay is only about 10-15% more. My weekly fixed costs are $75 more for this truck than my 1st truck.
I'm not in it for the money (I was making a steady $1500 a week hauling mail, a job I HATED!), for me it's all about the freedom. I can go home as much as I can afford to. I don't have to even look at their silly fuel routes. I enjoy the constant mental gymnastics necessary to run a business, even my 1 truck operation.
And like I said before, it's NOT for everybody.SteerTire and Northeasterner Thank this. -
well said. I was at roehl and ran pretty conservative numbers, came up with about 6000 a month income if I ran 11k miles... But then again I was making 53cpm as a company man so...
If you don't mind me asking, does swift pay you percentage or mileage as an o/o? folks say it's 1.20$/mi avg... is that accurate?
and what's this about swift raising their pay? I called 6 months ago... they said 2500 miles a week @ 43cpm in a reefer running nationwide. do you have the payscale? latest one on this site seems to be from 2014 lol. -
I’m not going with Swift. But I understand and agree with your reasons and thinking. I’m leaving a steady income also.
Most people state freedom. But the vast majority quote numbers. Like they’re in it to get rich
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There has never been a Lease Purchase through the carrier that was ever designed to help the driver... now there are some lease to own programs through private dealers that aren't too bad but I would never go through a carrier..
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