Insurance

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Skarlet03, Jul 6, 2018.

  1. Skarlet03

    Skarlet03 Bobtail Member

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    Hi all,
    I'm so upset with my insurance renewal rate that I can't even find any solution. I drive a Dodge with 4 car hauler. I have $1,000,000 liability, $150,000 cargo and $60,000 physical damage. My first-year insurance was $18,000 with progressive (understandable, it was a new authority). The second year was $12,000. The third was $16,000 (they explained that overall rates countrywide has raised). Progressive sent me a short questionary 3 month before the renewal and called it "random audit". After that, they told me that my new premium is $32,000. EXCUSE ME? Explaining as I was unproperly insured, even thus all limits are still the same and everything else too. Nothing has changed with my driving record. They made me pay $5000 over my premium for the remaining 3 months. My agent said that no one will give me any better rates till the renewal time. Now is my renewal time. Agent called to tell me that Progressive is the cheapest one with $32,000 premium. WTF? How much money do they expect me to make with 4 car hauler?

    Any suggestion anyone?
    Should I change an agent?
    What can I do about it?
     
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  3. Doing_flatbed_nc

    Doing_flatbed_nc Medium Load Member

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    Drop that physical damage, if you can. That should reduce your rates by a chunk. And, I think normal cargo insurance is about 100k. That'll lower it a bit too.
     
  4. ast26909

    ast26909 Medium Load Member

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    Follow this tread

    New policy insurance thread

    Shop around get as many quotes as you can, ins companies are not all the same it pays to shop around.
     
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  5. SteveScott

    SteveScott Road Train Member

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    From what I understand, Progressive is all over the place right now on rates, and they're not writing new policies on newer authority at all in some states. I'm waiting on quotes from 4 different brokers right now and have been for the last 2 weeks. The amount of time it's taking leads me to believe that they're having trouble finding anything at all regardless of price. Even OOIDA won't write new policies on authority less than 4 years old. It's tough being new in this business.
     
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  6. HopeOverMope

    HopeOverMope Road Train Member

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    I just spoke with an insurance agent at OOIDA yesterday, she said that is a rumor. So I don’t know, maybe she doesn’t know but she said we help companies get started and everything so of course we’re still doing insurance, it’s part of the package deal we offer. And that’s what she does all day. Idk
     
  7. HopeOverMope

    HopeOverMope Road Train Member

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    Yea insurance is a pretty crazy business you figure out more on how it works. Basically insurance companies accept liability in exchange for cash, so they can go invest it in stocks like crazy.

    Makes one wonder, did rates rise this year because of increased liability? Or because the company made investments in the wrong stocks. Personally, I think we shouldn’t have to fund their gambling desires, but it is what it is.

    When I hear the nationwide jingle it sounds like this “Nationwide we gamble money”. But I digress
     
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  8. SteveScott

    SteveScott Road Train Member

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    She said what is a rumor? I called OOIDA 3 weeks ago and was told they wouldn't write new policies on O/O's with authority less than 4 years old. She then emailed me a list of insurance brokers to call. That's their help for companies getting started.
     
  9. SteveScott

    SteveScott Road Train Member

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    Most insurance companies invest in bonds, not stocks. They do it for the same reason you or I would save money in an interest bearing account or buy a CD. Every 10 years the buying power of the dollar is cut in half, so we invest in safe interest bearing accounts to offset the loss. Insurance carriers who invest large sums in high risk stocks would have their rating reduced, and that is very bad for business.

    Over the last 3 years there have been a high number of jury awards against trucking companies, and that makes actuaries very nervous.
     
  10. HopeOverMope

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    Ok so, she said yes, they still do new entrants. That’s what I was told yesterday
     
  11. HopeOverMope

    HopeOverMope Road Train Member

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    Ok, bonds not stocks vice versa or whomever. What I’m saying is a kid I never knew this, it took me running into insurance agents to even catch wind of it. As far as trucking lawsuits, idk they can spin whatever line they choose. But instead of making carriers pay for it, work on restructuring things to protect Trucking companies more. Someone won a big settlement vs mcdees recently because the happy meal didn’t make him happy. Come on. So let’s raise insurance rates on small restaurants.
     
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