Intermodal company drivers?

Discussion in 'Intermodal Trucking Forum' started by glenn71, Sep 20, 2015.

  1. glenn71

    glenn71 Medium Load Member

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    OK so I'm kinda intrigued by this Intermodal thing. It Looks like it could be a very nice gig under the right circumstances.

    There are a couple of things I'm wondering about:

    Are there company drivers out there in the ports and rail yards, or are all of you guys O/O or L/O? I would think it might be a good idea to drive someone else's equipment before I decide to invest in a truck, but what the hell do I know? I haven't the first idea about how O/O run their show, and I'm not sure learning on the fly is a good idea.

    How is the tanker end of the biz, if there actually is a tanker segment? My experience, while limited, is in HazMat tankers.

    I kinda like this short run/out-and-back stuff you guys talk about on here. Probably beats hell out of OTR for three weeks at a time.

    I currently haul fuel locally, and like the idea of being home most, if not every night. Fuel is cool, but I'm always looking for something better, so any info would be mucho appreciated.
     
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    Hi glenn, I did the intermodal thing out of Chicago for almost 5 years ( in the 90's) with my own truck, and it was a nightmare. Things have gotten a lot better, but many chassis' still use tube-type tires, but it is changing. Many of the bigger companies, .B.Hunt, Schneider, etc, have their own chassis' , so they are tubeless. When you get a "pool" chassis, ( separate company that leases chassis' on a day to day basis) they will most assuredly have tube-type. I've seen tank containers, so they have them, but not too often. I liked intermodal, because you can do local stuff, as most intermodal shipments have a range of about 150-200 miles from the RR hub. Just about every major city has a RR ramp. There are plenty of company outfits that do that, HOWEVER, ( and if I knew how to make that word bigger, I would), be careful. Intermodal outfits ( and I won't say where they are from, or what trucks they use, that usually gets the thread banned) can be the the worst to deal with, but there are many reputable companies. I'd suggest J.B. Hunt, or Schneider (I'm sure there's more) before buying a truck. When I did it, it was like 90% van type freight, and I did ok. There are several members here that do that, and maybe can refer you to someone. My advice, stay with the "tube freight". Oh, btw, I was always a company driver too, and intermodal was my 1st ( and last) O/O deal. Boy howdy, I got a rude awakening. I was totally unprepared for what lie ahead, even though, I saved a ton of money doing my own repairs.
     
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  4. glenn71

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    Tube tires? I didn't think those things existed anymore, except in like, bicycles. Oh well, can't be much worse than a some of the squirrely fuel tankers we have where I work now.

    How does the pay scale work? Is it mostly miles or hours? I'm looking at the company driver side of it right now. Does the pay vary from region to region? I'm in South TX right now, but possibly looking to go elswhere, maybe Florida, where I used to live, or maybe out west in AZ. I AM NOT interested in moving back up north, or driving all over the continent. I've seen the country already, and certain parts of it look very strange.

    I really like the idea of 2-3 day trips mixed in with local stuff. Kinda breaks things up without being stuck in a sleeper for three weeks. Just drop the load off and high-tail it back to the home base, and start all over again. And, you don't smell like unleaded at the end of the day.

    I make decent money hauling fuel, and I may just stick with that if I can't find something good in FL or AZ, but I want to try something new. I can always go back if I don't like it.
     
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    I'm not sure how it is today, but I got paid by the load, like a % deal. I had a sleeper truck, but didn't spend too many nights (or days) in it, unless I wanted to push it, and run around the clock (laws be darned). Can't run like that nowadays, but most is local work, very little overnight, as anything over a certain distance or area, it's not feasible to use the RR. J.B.Hunt might be by the hour, and I knew guys that never left the city, all crosstown stuff, and they did better than me, but I could NOT do crosstown stuff. Yeah, tube tires were the worst part of it, as I'd have at least 2 or 3 flats a week, but again, things are changing.
     
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    I can tell you in Chicago, at least, company drivers are make about 1k a week.....o/o is more of a company by company thing (1500-3k net)......big range so due diligence is critical.....

    As far as how company drivers are paid (cpm, % or hourly) seems they end up making about the same anyway....(though I personally would NEVER do by the mile as hold ups at rr are notorious!!!!).
     
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    Hi RERM, don't get me started on Conrail 63rd. St. ( is that still there?):biggrin_2554: One of our drivers, years ago, had a bullet hole in the side of the wagon once coming out of there.
     
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    Yeah it's CSX now, but the neighborhood isn't quite as bad anymore(not good by any means just not a warzone, like, say NS47th.....
     
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    Hi RERM, I remember, the only way under the tracks was on 47th St(?) with a 13'6". Then you had to go down State St. to 63rd. I saw many trailers broken into while at the stop lights, so at night, I never stopped for a red light. ( slowed down, looked both ways and rolled through)
     
  10. glenn71

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    OK, so far I've learned that...

    RR yards are better than ports. Apparently ports are a mess (for reasons I have yet to find out), which is too bad since I plan on working in a port city. Maybe they have a rail head there too.

    Apparently there are a lot of company drivers out there, although the majority of trucks are o/o. This is good because I can do the company thing and maybe learn some things from o/o I meet.

    Hourly is better than miles, which makes perfect sense to me.

    A lot of stuff is local, which I like, but apparently there is a lot of 1-3 day out-back runs, which is cool, because I do like to see different places, but I think that's just about how long I can handle staying in a sleeper. I live in a motorhome already. I DO NOT need something even smaller to live in.

    Weekends off! I actually have Saturday and Sunday off now, but still, WEEKENDS OFF, WOO HOO!!1! My golf game and beach tan thank you.

    It seems to pay well in both South Texas and South Florida, which is where I'm looking. I live in South TX, but used to live in South Florida, and wouldn't mind going back for the right deal. I'm actually surprised that FL pays decent, since all I hear is that its a black hole for driver wages. I know it was for everything else, so when I lived there I actually worked in another state(s). Different line of work back then, but highly lucrative everywhere except FL.

    I've seen those "tank in a cage" things rolling out of Houston, and I figure it's probably HazMat tanker work, which is all I really know how to do, so if I can find a company that hauls those things I might be right where I want to be. As a bonus, it looks like there is no loading/unloading of product involved with whatever those things are either. I can work with that. Do they do HazMat in cans?

    The O/O thing may or may not be something I'm interested in. I ran the family business several years ago, and quite frankly I hated it, even though the money was great. It would depend just how much time and effort I would have to put into the behind the scenes type stuff to make it worthwhile. For right now though, if I drive and take care of your truck and you pay me well and don't take advantage of me, we'll both be riding unicorns and pooping rainbows. It's less stressful that way. For me, at least. YMMV.

    Day work: I work days now, but my day starts at 2-3am. I'm an early riser, but that's ridiculous. And, I'm sick of coming home smelling like unleaded. Even my car's upholstery is starting to smell like a Citgo station. However, it is now 1.30pm and I have been off and home for over an hour, so there's that. I look forward to starting say, at 5-6a and putting in a nice lively 8-10hr day, notwithstanding the odd RR and port delay and GTF out of Dodge. I have a life and I intend to live the #### thing.
     
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  11. RERM

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    That might work out some days, but not all....it's still trucking....and you still have 14...
     
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