Is another big slowdown coming?

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  1. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Well to explain something, there is a list of adverse events that are part of the new drug application data, and for some reason I can’t find it as I can find other drug adverse events.

    can this palsy and other things happen?

    maybe but this is a vaccine that isn’t a traditional vaccine, it is an mRNA vaccine and as my worry is with it there was very little testing on people who had either tested positive for sars co2 and no symptoms and those who had it and went through aggressive therapies to become stable and beat this flu.

    if we have a vaccine that will cause issues with post flu people, it may cause them to have worst symptoms and even death because of a possible compromises of their immune system.
     
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    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    I'll leave my fate in God's hands. If its time to gone then we'll say good bye.
    If you think that China could have infected the entire world without cooperation of other governments then you probably trust the government far too much.
     
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    Do you know how many participants were in the Pfizer trial?
    30,000. Four got Bell's Palsy. What's the instance of Bell's Palsy in the general US population? One in 8750 people per year. In other words, not any more than usual.

    Think people.
     
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    I don't know if you're just bad at google or what but the FDA has published the side effects here:
    Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine

    Again there's no statistically significant link between the vaccine and Bell's Palsy. You would expect around four of 30,000 people in any trial to get it. Among a host of other problems that 30,000 people will get just living their lives. Not everything is caused by the vaccine, if the instances are within an expected range for the general population, which the Bell's Palsy fake news is. If there were 100 instances of Bell's Palsy, you might have a story. But not with four. The only confirmed side effects are chills, fever, etc.

    It's a rough vaccine, but it doesn't kill you, and it definitely stops you spreading COVID around, which is the whole point. To stop the spread and suffocate this thing.
     
  8. Ridgeline

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    Wait, I know where to find the info, it isn’t a google and discover moment, but there is a list of adverse events with the stats that go with it, this EUDA is shallow of information because of the alleged emergency to get it on the market.

    I don’t know about Bell’s palsy, I do know the list of adverse events seems to be bare considering that they also are listed for the flu vaccine that is administered annually.

    also it was 43,000 people who participated in the study, which is very small study with a lack of other safeguards involved that are done in phase ll and lll studies. One is testing on people who had the virus, and the other thing that it lacks is an exposure study ... they all do.

    we don’t know the actual efficacy of the vaccine, we won’t until it is administered to a few million people and the drop in alleged positive cases shows the effect. But then there is a problem with the testing of people for an infection, the tests produce too many false positives and false negatives. Then we also have a cdc that estimates we have 114 million people who have been infected and are immune to this virus, making mass immunization moot. The truth is this isn’t what the fda has claimed in the hearing, one in one thousand who are infected die, it seems like one in five hundred thousand die from it if we use cdc’s new claim.

    again the rush to try to control a virus seems to have us, the people being screwed again, mask wearing didn’t work, social distancing didn’t work but forgotten is the truth that we known for over a century, isolate the sick and wash your hands and face often.

    like I said my worries are with the people who had the virus with no symptoms and those who had it with mitigation through therapies, like what my daughter went through. The vaccine, not one of them has been tested on either demographic and if it is a case where their body has a severe reaction or compromises the immune system because the altered rna being injected into someone, then there is a chance of killing them.
     
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    I'm going to clean the political posts out of this thread because it would be a shame to bury it in the Political forum.
    It's up to you guys whether it stays here or not.
     
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    Whether you agree with the shutdowns in various states and cities or not, they are a reaction to growth of COVID in those areas. So reduce COVID, reduce shutdowns.

    I'll be getting the vaccine as soon as possible. Will you?
     
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