Is cr england evil?

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  1. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    Ladies and gentlemen.....

    Even without an experienced hand's advice....If it sounds too good to be TRUE...it probably is.....
     
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  3. Owner's Operator

    Owner's Operator Medium Load Member

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    That's the thing the CRE fleace deal doesn't sound good anyway you slice the pie. You don't have to be a Harvard graduate to figure that 85 cents per mile and a $600 a WEEK truck payment is NOT a good deal, well for CRE it is.
     
  4. badsey

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    That's really the problem right there -you could say:

    50cpm
    -10cpm
    -2.00cpm

    *and you will still have drivers signing up. It makes no logical sense anyway you try to spin it. I just say ***Fleece*** -to me that makes sense in my simple trucker's mind.

    -I refuse to fight these people (fleecers). +they wouldn't listen to you anyway if you did. Sort of like the moths going into the light.
     
  5. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    Is it the responsibility of an employer to compensate you above the average wage range?

    Is it the employer's fault that you can't live within your means?
     
  6. stlwaco

    stlwaco Light Load Member

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    Luckly I didnt do the lease.
     
  7. bordomzero

    bordomzero Light Load Member

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    going lease for most companies in this economy = bad idea. Better work on company and wait for the economy to pick up then think lease.
     
  8. capnsean520

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    Well, there are things that CRE does that aren't too sound. The overall status of their Drivers is about 50/50. 50% are doing really well, the other 50% aren't doing so well. They just fired 300 Company Drivers, so I hear, and 500 Lease Operators. They're somewhat hurting for those "new drivers" to lease their trucks right off the bat, but that's not the way to go. Go company, establish yourself, then lease if you want.
    What company, can you tell me, doesn't have their cons? I agree with badsey, if someone tells me that ABC and XYZ company are the best company in the world, I believe them. I'm a CRE apprentice driver, and I'm not as impressed with the company as when I first started. But, then again, I'm a furloughed airline pilot. I compare everything to the Aviation industry, namely it's fast-paced lifestyle, the love of the career, and the occasional bum rush from the company. It's all here at CRE, trust me. But, then again, I continue through this program one day at a time.
     
  9. truckerdave1970

    truckerdave1970 On Probation

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    Is CR England evil???
    Is a frog's butt water-tight?
    Does a bear poop in the woods?
     
  10. knighton5

    knighton5 Heavy Load Member

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    Why does CR ENGLAND have a 14 cpm variable cost? Thats 14 cpm taken away from the driver! Where is that 14 cpm going? Lets see, 14 cents per mile equals 350 bucks a week (assuming 2500 miles). Thats alot of money going SOMEWHERE!
     
  11. AfterShock

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    Good question.
    What about Schneider?
    In what way(s) does Schneider resemble C.R. England, other than they're both Big truck truckin' companies?

    How do you define "evil"?

    If that's the case, you'd think CRE would make sure EVERY applicant was aware of the potential pitfalls that seem to occur with regularity to their newBee drivers.

    I agree it's the responsibility of those seeking employment to research any company they apply with. But there will always be those who don't research, for whatever reason. For those who have not done their research, and taking into consideration the unusually large number of folks failing to make the grade at CRE, I'm inclined to believe that CRE purposely doesn't clue them in as to what they can expect, ----- including being used and kicked to the curb.

    It seems that CRE considers those with limited knowledge to be ideal candidates for a fleasing. If CRE was totally honest up front, as they require their applicants to be, I'll bet we'd be reading far fewer complaints about them here as well as other truckin' related websites.

    Is it "evil" to knowingly mislead or purposely omit pertinent information with the intention of profiting from such actions at the expense of those whom they mislead? Is it "evil" to know what's being done not only has the potential, but actually HAS completely ruined some folks who signed on the dotted line based on information and false hope provided by CRE employees?
    Bait and switch?

    Let's see,
    Lies
    Deceit
    Unethical
    Cheating
    Taking unfair advantage
    Misleading -----
    All done purposely with the intent of making larger profits with little, if any, concern what the ramifications will be and too often are, for those who trust what CRE tells them to be truthful.
    Would any of those actions be considered "evil"?
    Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

    Judging by the armed guards on duty and having to pass through a metal detector just to say hello to a dispatcher causes me to believe C.R. England has no doubt if they're "evil".
    I notice they aren't changing their way of profiting, even though they're aware of what effect they have on the lives of others. I'd go so far as to believe CRE just flat doesn't care.

    Call it what you will.
    It's still what it is by any name.

    Gosh driver, I can't think of a single thing CRE has done --- and continues to do, that would cause anyone to associate that company with "evil".
    However, I can think of many things.

    Who's opinion is it that WDC is the "World's Greatest Employer"?
    As far as what goes on backstage or off stage compared to what goes on "ON stage" ---- ON stage is an act.
    OFF Stage is reality.
    Of those two, which do y'all think should be believed?

    I suspect the reason it doesn't make logical sense to you is because you have enough experience in the truckin' industry and know better, or at least know a raw deal when it's presented as a golden opportunity.

    WannaBees can be gullible, not unlike an innocent little child who doesn't know any better or hasn't learned to recognize bovine excrement yet. They're at the mercy of those they come in contact with. Would you purposely tell such such a child lies that have the potential to cause said child grief if they believed you and planned their life based on untruths supplied by you?
    Would that be considered "evil"?
    For that matter, does "evil" really even exist?
    Maybe it's all just in the mind. And if it isn't it doesn't really exist.
    What about conscience?
    Same thing?

    No doubt CRE is clever and done their homework --- along with an army of attorneys who advise CRE exactly how much they can legally get away with. Even when a court's decision is rendered against CRE, it isn't enough to put an end to the shady practices CRE still manages to get away with and continue to get away with.

    Is it unreasonable for an employee to expect to be treated fairly and with respect no matter what their wage range is?

    That's an assumption on your part, --- unless you have proof that those who don't succeed at CRE didn't succeed because they weren't living within their means. Or you consider receiving negative paychecks something one can live within.

    I notice CRE manages to take their cut right off the top so they're always paid first, before anyone else. I reckon CRE finds it rather easy to live within their means even if it means starving the small business owner out of business.
    No big deal to CRE. There seems to be plenty more out there who are naive enough to believe what a truckin' company like C.R. England tells them. CRE wants their trust, gets it, and uses their trust against them, all in the name of profits.

    The LOVE of money is the root of ALL "evil".
    Who originally said that? :dontknow:
    I forget now.
    :scratch:
    I think I read that in a book.
     
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