Is it slow for everyone

TallJoe · Feb 22, 2020

Read Charles Bukowski "Women" and I promise, you'll get a good laugh.

gentleroger · Feb 22, 2020

Scooter Jones said: ↑

You're obviously good at googling, give it a try
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Not so much at googling as I am a student of Henry Wriston.

Midwest Trucker · Feb 22, 2020

Jesus you guys need to slow the reading of old ######## stories and forge your own path in today’s world. Quit cherry picking old stupid ### stories and live in the now. I’m all for knowing history to help predict the future but you guys are taking it beyond realistic.

Midwest Trucker · Feb 22, 2020

gentleroger said: ↑

I am not asking rich people to be ashamed of their success.

I am not asking people to deny themselves profit.

What I am saying is that those who do not work for a living should not underbid those who do

My company recently acquired an account. I was tasked with getting equipment into this "new business startup", which was a good deal for me. For three weeks I was doing 3,500 paid miles running empty trailers into this location, going home for a 34. For 5.5 days of work I was making $1,600, not bad, not great, just okay.

I was asked, and agreed, to be available for the first week we ran this account. I figured I would take one for the team, and then get running as normal. Turns out they ran me like a red headed step child for the first week. I've been averaging $1,700 a week, working 5 days a week since December 1. After the first week I found out what we were paying the other drivers. Guys running the account have been making $1,000 a week for two months, and $1,100 for the last two weeks. When we started this account we paid our yard jockeys $15.30 an hour. I made a point of going in to talk to our division manager and complaining about their pay. My words were "whoever bid this account with this level driver pay should be fired for violating our core values". That, and other's complaints, resulted in a 10% wage increase for road drivers and yard jockeys now start at $18.00 an hour, which in my opinion is still criminally low as on our "system" pay scale I make more than 30% more than the drivers assigned to the account doing the same work.

My company ran the numbers and figured that they could secure the account by underbidding the current account holder. The only way my company could actually turn a profit based on their bid is by screwing the drivers. Based on current SEC filings, my company has a 3.5% cap rate - a little more than half of what is considered "acceptable" by most MBA program models. My company can run this account at cost minus because of their "big stack" because fraction of a penny on the dollar still makes sense when the base rate is two comma money. If they paid every driver on the account at my rate (and yard jockey's at an equivalent) they would lose money. Yet we made the bid, despite the fact that we were going to be screwing the run of the mill employee.

Think of it this way. You sit down at a Texas hold em no limit table with 5 players. 3 players have $10,000, 1 player has $100,000 and one player has $1,000,000 in chips. After 10 hours of play, who has the most money? It doesn't matter the skill of the players, the guy with the big stack is going to win.

Now change the rules so that after the initial deal the player with the largest stack gets to choose the wild card. Who do you think is going to win now?

The Big Stack at the table is going to be sitting pretty while the small stacks are getting screwed with this pants on, but as this is the only game in town they will take what is given and be happy about it.

Or in other words

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I would fire you immediately. Quit with the social justice warrior bs bro. If they are not happy, or more then likely too #### lazy to ask for more money, it’s none of your #### business.

oh, and your assuming a large stack in poker will beat a small stack? Gimme a break. Quit with the victim bs bub. It’s called outsmart and outwit.

It should be looked as an opportunity that you can easily gain position on someone due to their large stack. You assume you’ll lose because your at a disadvantage. The exact thought of someone who LOSES.

Midwest Trucker · Feb 22, 2020

My God people. Get a freakin grip. I’m not sure how much more of this victim bs I can handle. Or how 2 to 400 yrs ago some jack off wrote some bs and somehow it’s the Bible of today’s world just because it fits your narrative. Spend less time reading and more time thinking about how you can get ahead. If you feel that #### bad about yourself go volunteer at a soup kitchen and give them all your money. It’ll make the dope dealers very happy in your area.

sealevel · Feb 22, 2020

It's ironic. It's usually the people who grew up dirt poor and became successful who treasure this great country the most. No think tanks or silly graphs needed.
Not much different than it ever was. Ups and downs. As you get older you figure out what to do with them and realize how lucky you are to be here. At least that's my take.

Rubber duck kw · Feb 23, 2020

gentleroger said: ↑

The Bridge Builder
By Will Allen Dromgoole
An old man going a lone highway,
Came, at the evening cold and gray,
To a chasm vast and deep and wide.
Through which was flowing a sullen tide
The old man crossed in the twilight dim,
The sullen stream had no fear for him;
But he turned when safe on the other side
And built a bridge to span the tide.

“Old man,” said a fellow pilgrim near,
“You are wasting your strength with building here;
Your journey will end with the ending day,
You never again will pass this way;
You’ve crossed the chasm, deep and wide,
Why build this bridge at evening tide?”

The builder lifted his old gray head;
“Good friend, in the path I have come,” he said,
“There followed after me to-day
A youth whose feet must pass this way.
This chasm that has been as naught to me
To that fair-haired youth may a pitfall be;
He, too, must cross in the twilight dim;
Good friend, I am building this bridge for him!”
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I would interpret that as the guy who busted his ### and used his brains and left a pile for his kids and grandkids.

Rubber duck kw · Feb 23, 2020

TallJoe said: ↑

All right Pal. Let me tell you as I slowly loose my patience hoping that we can find some common footing to understand each other.
Suffice to say, I am not jealous and have enough not to be jealous. I am the last one who will go after rich.
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Really, you sound pretty jealous.

Rubber duck kw · Feb 23, 2020

gentleroger said: ↑

I am not asking rich people to be ashamed of their success.

I am not asking people to deny themselves profit.

What I am saying is that those who do not work for a living should not underbid those who do.

My company recently acquired an account. I was tasked with getting equipment into this "new business startup", which was a good deal for me. For three weeks I was doing 3,500 paid miles running empty trailers into this location, going home for a 34. For 5.5 days of work I was making $1,600, not bad, not great, just okay.

I was asked, and agreed, to be available for the first week we ran this account. I figured I would take one for the team, and then get running as normal. Turns out they ran me like a red headed step child for the first week. I've been averaging $1,700 a week, working 5 days a week since December 1. After the first week I found out what we were paying the other drivers. Guys running the account have been making $1,000 a week for two months, and $1,100 for the last two weeks. When we started this account we paid our yard jockeys $15.30 an hour. I made a point of going in to talk to our division manager and complaining about their pay. My words were "whoever bid this account with this level driver pay should be fired for violating our core values". That, and other's complaints, resulted in a 10% wage increase for road drivers and yard jockeys now start at $18.00 an hour, which in my opinion is still criminally low as on our "system" pay scale I make more than 30% more than the drivers assigned to the account doing the same work.

My company ran the numbers and figured that they could secure the account by underbidding the current account holder. The only way my company could actually turn a profit based on their bid is by screwing the drivers. Based on current SEC filings, my company has a 3.5% cap rate - a little more than half of what is considered "acceptable" by most MBA program models. My company can run this account at cost minus because of their "big stack" because fraction of a penny on the dollar still makes sense when the base rate is two comma money. If they paid every driver on the account at my rate (and yard jockey's at an equivalent) they would lose money. Yet we made the bid, despite the fact that we were going to be screwing the run of the mill employee.

Think of it this way. You sit down at a Texas hold em no limit table with 5 players. 3 players have $10,000, 1 player has $100,000 and one player has $1,000,000 in chips. After 10 hours of play, who has the most money? It doesn't matter the skill of the players, the guy with the big stack is going to win.

Now change the rules so that after the initial deal the player with the largest stack gets to choose the wild card. Who do you think is going to win now?

The Big Stack at the table is going to be sitting pretty while the small stacks are getting screwed with this pants on, but as this is the only game in town they will take what is given and be happy about it.

Or in other words

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So you complained to the boss that you were being paid more than someone else? A poker player with 100k dollars and a lifetime of experience should clean out the punk ### kid 1 million, poker isn't just pure luck. Now you want to start with just changing random rules you're running out of sensible arguments and know it.

JDstrick · Feb 23, 2020

D.Tibbitt said: ↑

The economy is doing great. The slow trucking market and the overall economy are not related at all.
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why are the rates same as 20 years ago?

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