It can be done..

truly, the right wing spin machine has succeeded at getting poor folks to defend rich folks screwing them

stockholm syndrome to the Nth degree

 

that doesn't sound ironic, it sounds false. I really have no idea what bible you are reading. Ayn Rand's message is a person should act on greed and seek to accumulate wealth. She claims that each person accepting and motivated by greed will move society forward for everyone. Jesus preached humility and had a remarkable disinterest in possesions. Furthermore, he said we were all like sparrows, totally dependent on god's will for even our daily food. In fact he preached that every thing is a gift from god, whereas Rand firmly insists a select few produce everything and the rest of us should be willing and thankful servants to these human/god's from who all blessings flow. Your own signature is atheistic in nature as Jesus said to build up your treasures in heaven and all good things come from god, not our capacity to think.

 

Not everyone wants to build a fleet of mega carrier trucks. Had they done the mega carrier route they might have survived.

 

OMG Danny - why do you keep turning things inside out to make them sound the way YOU want them to sound? Ayn Rand did NOT talk about greed - or the accumulation of wealth - as a purpose. She advocated RATIONAL SELF INTEREST - and that if everyone followed RATIONAL self interests, they would complement EACH OTHERS' interests.

In fact, she also advocated the idea that it is immoral to own huge tracts of land without using them. If her ideas were actually used today, then oil companies could not buy up thousands and thousands of square miles of land, only to drill on 2% of it. Other oil companies, SMALLER ones, would have the opportunity to make profit as well. Instead, we have Government sponsored corporate fascism, and do NOT compare that with a true free market. Also, you need to realize that "rational self interest" is not the same as "greed". Every day we make choices based upon rational self interest. In fact, this is the thought process MOST people use to make their decisions. And no, stealing something is not rational, etc.
Ayn Rand also did not advocate corporations growing so large and powerful that it could buy politicians. She thought the whole idea of this kind of corruption was disgusting and violated human rights to a free market.

As far as Jesus said, like I told you before but you still won't listen, you don't have the right to talk about what the Bible said if you're not a Christian. But since I digress on that, I'll tell you the truth - material possessions are fine, as long as you use them for a purpose that doesn't include violating the commandments, and as long as you realize that you can't take "things" with you in the afterlife, since they have to meaning, so don't base your life's joy on "things", but instead people. The Bible also says that a man ought to take pleasure in the fruits of his labor.

We have got to get over this myth that if one person has something, everyone else ought to have the same thing. If you agree that it is unfair that one person is more wealthy than others, then you also have to agree that it is also unfair to take from the wealthy to give to those with less.

Sorry for getting off topic, but I guess it is still on topic, since the underlying theme is how people are still finding opportunity to better their living situation, and how this is a GOOD THING, and should NOT be frowned upon. The more people that are able to lift THEMSELVES out of poverty, the better. And if they need help along the way, well that is why we are here, to help each other out - but NOT to steal from thy neighbor to help thy other neighbor.

 

BoyWander, I was trying to explain my view on the subject. That's what you do in a conversation. I really don't see what your beef with someone explaining their position. It gives you every opportunity to "set me straight". IDK, just seems weird to me that you would frown on anyone who doesn't profess to being a christian trying to read an understand the bible. Besides which, the book totally permeates our society, I think it's relevant regardless of how much or little of it you believe. bottom line, you read it and you read Ayn Rand, I also read both. We came to different conclusions, thanks for explaining yours. Now it makes a little more sense to me why you feel Ayn Rand's views fit in with your christianity. I disagree, but I understand where your coming from a little more. fair enough.

 

"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."As far as quoting Bible it is free speech so believe in that story tale or not anybody has the right to say things.
The brainwash is over. Let us talk facts.I am happy for the guy . I wish there were more successful people like him.
But is kind of funny how sometimes if you have a liitle saved in your checking account people begin to identify themselves with the rich,meanwhile the top 10% wealthiest possessed 80% of all financial assets in 2007 ,even more today after the " crisis" they set up. The bottom 40 % which will include pretty much all who reads this and me own 0.4 %!!!!!. If these figures do not shock you I dont know what else will.
When all the highways were built and Eisenhower was President, taxes for the rich were like 90%, now you cant raise them to 40%, youll be called socialist. Still 50% of those losers like me voted Repuplican in midterm elections, nothing ng with this picture?wro

 

Since we're on the topic of politics and economics, well I don't like the income gap either. But I think this has more to do with the Government enabling some corporations to become so large and powerful through regulations. You want to know an example, well the whole thing with the Mega Carriers getting all this Government subsidy (even in the form of tax write-offs) to put people through school - and then the whole thing with EOBRs that they know are expensive and the small carriers can hardly afford them - the point is that the Government is happy creating regulations that sound good and noble, but their purpose is to further consolidate the market share into the hands of fewer and fewer companies, making it easier to control the markets and economy for the Gov't.

It is the joining of Government and Corporate interests to control the market and economy that is what I am against, and so is any believer in liberty and the free market, and even socialists. I don't think the problem is socialism, it is fascism. Bush wasn't a true Capitalist, as is Obama isn't a true Socialist. I honestly believe they are both Fascist. Perhaps slightly different breeds, but all the same.

Democracy can't exist with a tyrannical government as also it can't exist with a tyrannical, all-powerful corporate elite. Men with money and power, no matter if they are a CEO or a President or Senator, can use their position to further their goals.

This is why smaller government is better, because it is harder for people with money to influence public policy.

Sorry if I offended you Danny, I don't mean to do that, but some people here know how passionate I can be about my beliefs.

So to keep this post on topic, this guy who made it is proof that there is still opportunity out there for the little guy. And as for the trucking industry, well the vast majority of the market is still owned and controlled by smaller carriers. I hope to God that this continues, but I have a feeling that there is going to continue to be a behind-the-scenes push to further consolidate the market into the hands of the mega carriers and mega brokers. The raising of the bond amount to $75k seems like another one of these ploys.

If you think about all of this, it doesn't sound as tinfoil-hat as it seems.

 

Jesus said it is the "love of money" that is the root of all evil. Not the possession of it or possessions, themselves. Interestingly, one can be poor and love money or have it but not love it.

"Godliness with contentment is great gain". 1 Timothy 6:6

If you're looking longingly at what others have, you're not content.

Christians should not believe in luck but they should believe in providence.

 

Hi im a truck driver i thought these were trucker forums, not bible quoting forums?

 

That's a fair statement. But as someone else said on here, the Bible influences the entire culture. Either because of what someone believes that it says or doesn't say. Whether people are conscious of it or not, they quote or misquote all manner of sources when making points or forming opinions no matter what the subject. The Bible is one such source. Other sources include the US Constitution, founding documents and countless others.

While I can't answer for anyone else, I saw a common misquote of the Bible being used to make a case for a particular worldview and opinion of the original post and saw a need to correct it.