Just got fired....now what?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by lutzman, Aug 7, 2020.

  1. lutzman

    lutzman Bobtail Member

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    No. The advice here was really good. I don't yet have the experience.
     
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  3. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    I don't know. I just know that the carriers that have these policies will inform a driver during orientation of it. I also know that a driver can also be fired in the absence of an official policy prohibiting them.

    This is not to bash this poor driver in that USA Truck video trying to turn around and doing a U-Turn. What do you do if you come upon this? In my case, it happened to me. Took a long time, made me late as heck for my delivery, but I backed out with my 4 ways on and a cop helping me back to the main road.

    One of the top 10 golden rules of trucking. When you find yourself in a hole throw away that dang shovel!
     
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  4. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    One more example. I was in the Philly Metro area about 15 years ago. Lost and trying to get back on I 95 so I could get on the Turnpike and go north. Got really lost and in an area where I had ZERO experience. I called 911 after getting my truck out of the way. Two cops came to help me. I apologized and said I missed a turn. The older cop said not a problem, I MUCH rather help you out then spend 2 or 3 hours cleaning up the mess you very likely would have made.

    When you are in a hole, most of the time you are under pressure, lost, and not on your game. You can miss important things. This is when you stop and get help. It's not a knock against your professionalism! It simply is what it is, NONE of us walk on water! The learning curve in this business is steep and in some situations unforgivable!
     
  5. buddyd157

    buddyd157 Road Train Member

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    ok, well you did not specify in either your other thread, nor this one.

    with THAT being said, I WILL SAY THIS..

    if you DO go and get your own rig, you MUST DO a PROPER pre-trip and it would help to do a PROPER post trip each and every day. as an o/o, you have just as much, if not MORE responsibilities than a driver.

    you will have insurance companies to answer to. you will have the DOT to answer to. YOU WILL HAVE LAWYERS TO ANSWER TO, in the event of an accident.......and THAT AIN'T NO LAUGHING MATTER.

    would you want to get a safety audit from the DOT, and they close you down?

    i think not.

    let all of this crap you have been thru thus far, BE A LEARNING EXPERIENCE, and move on.

    i wish you well, but as even a newbie trucker, you have to be a PROFESSIONAL 1000% of the time, and OVER 1000% as an o/o.

    good luck to you.
     
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  6. NorthEastTrucker

    NorthEastTrucker Heavy Load Member

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    I honestly will never understand why someone would make an illegal u-turn on the road with a posted sign stating Not to do so? However, regarding the firing of drivers for other minor things without a 1st warning makes me wonder how much drivers large carriers actually keep? This ad is 7 months older but shows the driver turnover percentages Why is driver turnover in trucking so high? - FreightWaves from just reading this the carriers attitudes also have to change especially in a time that there's lesser Millennials & Generation 'Y' truckers in the next decade considering that the majority of truckers avg. Age is 55 years in todays industry.
    https://www.trucker.com/drivers/article/21746008/in-with-the-new-trucking-adapts-to-next-generation there's only (15.6%) of 25- to 34-year-olds drivers now. Its beginning to sound like a losing battle of Longevity for the carriers in the future.
     
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  7. lutzman

    lutzman Bobtail Member

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    I appreciate the feedback from everyone. Look, I wasn't trying to explain my way this...I was looking to understand from those of you who have spent years in this business how the severity of my mistakes was evaluated by CR England. It seems pretty clear most people here agree what I did was sufficient for termination. I accept that.

    Here's the part I don't understand: when stopped for inspection by the DOT the officer specifically told me the violations generated no fines and there would be no points on my driving record. So, I was shocked that the company did score internal points against my record even though the inspector said the DOT would not. I just assumed that if the DOT didn't hold it against me, why would the company? But, I get it that trucking companies have insurance requirements that require them to be ultra careful and my previous mistakes combined with the inspection led to the outcome....independent of whether the official DOT people scored my record or not.
     
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  8. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    Probably won't matter as much as you think. Where do you live.
     
  9. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    This stuff probably won't matter except for real tickets. You have 2 your good to go. Don't go to PRIDE or SWIFT, but that being said your not in bad shape. After rereading your post, the only actual ticket is for a burned out headlamp
     
  10. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    Well I have already been called a Nazi, so I guess you can start calling me Adolf!

    To understand that inspection better it's critical you understand CSA and how it effects the Carriers. These scores can if they get really bad result in ALL the prepass devices being shutoff. It can also cost a carrier business. It's also important to remember the driving record is just ONE metric when it comes to a drivers fitness! The DOT officer told you correctly in regard to the fines and your DMV! The carrier is looking at the situation in regard to CSA, it's simply not the same! Sorry!
     
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  11. lutzman

    lutzman Bobtail Member

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    Correct.
    Well, I never called you a Nazi (that was others) and thanked you for your feedback. Yep, I now better understand the difference between points on my driving record and the CSA My mistake, as I assumed these two were essentially the same when it came to evaluating my performance. So, at least my actual driving record remains clean. I appreciate your insight.
     
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