Just Say NO.

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by FoolsErrand, Aug 4, 2019.

  1. idriveaholden

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    looks like a normal goldhofer tire to me lol
     
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  3. FoolsErrand

    FoolsErrand Road Train Member

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    i agree. I was very replaceable in many industries prior to getting a cdl. The lifestyle can suck but man does a cdl give you leverage.

    i have never had so many job offers in my life and im pretty skilled.
     
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  4. FoolsErrand

    FoolsErrand Road Train Member

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    I let used car salesmen have loads of rope to hang themselves. When you point out a proverbial ding they smather on a load of verbal bondo. Tomorrow you point out another ding and theyll try to bondo over that one too. Before long youve heard many different versions of various stories. When neccessary i let them know i have an uncanny memory for such little details and then if its needed, will lay out the conflicts claims theyve made. A compulsive liar fears exposure the most and will run far away to avoid it in my experience.

    If youre sheepish theyll try to dominate you but with some courage and a commitment to truth, theyll just want you gone. Truth is a liars kryptonite, makes em ill.
     
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  5. starmac

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    If you guys would care to read the post, it doesn't appear to be a company truck, nor a company hiring him, it sounds like it just happens to be an individual with a truck that WAS leased to a company. Just how much good would it do any of us or any newbies to know the individuals name??

    I know truckers like to whine and gripe, but it seems like some take pride in thinking up something to gripe about. lol
     
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  6. Ridgeline

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    Well X1, the one thing that has failed the newbie is a lack of knowledge and while I feel there is a real disconnect in the regulations on training on several subjects like responsibilities, I have a equally huge problem with not getting this job/cdl as a skilled trade and a real professional. This way any training should instruct the driver (and test them) on the legal end of their responsibilities and the responsibility of others, not leave it in the dark for them to figure out on their own.

    I have met new drivers who can't find the FMCSA regs. Even online! And they act like they are clueless to other things, where training should have weeded them out.
     
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  7. x1Heavy

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    Agreed Sir.

    In Aviation you don't have flight school without a serious ground component. Never mind the legally binding communications required of a Pilot in most stiutations in the Washington Center Region and other areas.

    I don't know how to fix it.

    Orientations tend to be rah rah let's make nuggets of gold right now. Sign sign sign sign go go go go. and so on.
     
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  8. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Well one solution is revamping the entire CDL program with training that is uniformed, and dropping a lot of the crap like "trainers" and all the company driven crap. Do real world testing, with more or less a serious introduction on rights, responsibilities and regs.
    On the other side of the coin, the FMCSA needs to step in and stop a few things, one is physicals. Forcing a carrier to accept a valid physical and not forcing a driver to go to a company examiner, but one of their choice. The other is force a carrier not to act like they are slave owners with training contracts (like non-compete), if a driver wants to leave, then the financial obligation needs to be paid in a reasonable time frame, not threatening other companies or the driver with lawsuits.
     
  9. FoolsErrand

    FoolsErrand Road Train Member

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    I have no training from anyone whatsoever in trucking. I had to teach myself, fund myself, ask my own questions and seek out the answers, find my own mentors and learn by error, error, error.

    Now that i am here and doing it for a profession, i am trying to help the ones who will come behind me down the same dark path. More than any advice i could give is dont let a pushy salesman put you into a claptrap deathwish of a truck with promises of it all being just fine and how the other guy had no trouble. I have encountered MANY of these. More bad owners are hiring than good owners. The good ones dont have a vacant seating issue.

    Stand firm. Say no. Walk away.
     
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  10. stayinback

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    I generally don't agree too much with you,but you're spot on here.
     
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  11. starmac

    starmac Road Train Member

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    In my opinion, one solution is to quit telling anybody and everybody that they can be a truck driver.
    Some people even after driving for years, after being trained, still just does not have the what it takes to be a driver, when anything at all different from their regular routine rears it's head. Others with the right head set, and a little common sense can get there license with no school and head out and be a better driver in a wek than some that have already retired.
     
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