Landstar / EOBR

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Truck609, Aug 5, 2012.

  1. ATL-1

    ATL-1 Medium Load Member

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    Good info here. Thanks for all the stories.
     
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  3. BigBadBill

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  4. Gunz444

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    Crazy D You are my god!!

    Clearly you know how this industry "really" runs and the rest of us are just stupid sheep. I feel so inferior to you. Yes, go ahead and take my loads. Take my truck and everything I own. Clearly, I don't deserve any of it. Even though the rest of us will have to comply with the law, you will be above it! You will be "stealing" everyone's loads while they become prisoners to the feds and the EOBR's !!

    Seriously bro -- If guys like you actually had wives, I would be taking my 10 hour break near your house since you follow the industry protocol of working 364 days a year.(you seem to think it is 12 hours but why do you need ANY break, you are a god right and we are sheep) Oh wait. I remember now. You also work on Christmas !!! (Even though most shippers are closed, you of all people, know who is still open because the rest of us stupid sheep are at home wrapping presents for our kids and we dont really know what we are doing like you do)

    As you have stated before, (being the god you are) this is what we all signed up for right? But we just haven't realized it yet. Right? You are a super god trucker and the EOBR regs will never impact you. You are like honey badger. You don't give a crap about any EOBR law!! You have loads to steal cuz thats what honey badger does, he steals loads from the sheep!!

    Yes. You are my god now.

    OH YES !!! I aspire to be just like you !

    I will NOW log onto this board to project my problems on other drivers! (just like you) I will NOW try to make them look foolish while I try make myself like "cool breeze" the super driver(just like you).Yes!! I want to be just like you NOW!!


    Not being sarcastic now= Why is it that I get the impression reading your snarky and condescending posts that YOU are probably the one loosing business and going broke and you are probably the one who cant figure out how to make money in this industry?????

    Bro; you are clearly a legend in YOUR own mind.

    Ok so go ahead and tell us all again how we are sheep and you are our god! Go ahead. I await your true wisdom and knowledge!


     
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  5. Gunz444

    Gunz444 Light Load Member

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    Yes only you see it Crazy D. Because you are my GOD!

     
  6. Gunz444

    Gunz444 Light Load Member

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    Cowpie1

    How do you do that without accounting for those miles?

    I am currently using Udrove but this is just a simple app to help me get logs done faster and easier.

    I have been beta testing their new EOBR system and I am like you, I want to be prepared for what happens next. I also want to be prepared for the day (lets hope it never comes) that I am involved in a wreck and I can just hand my log data to the ambulance chaser and say "Go ahead! Just try to make me out to be a bad guy. I RUN LEGAL AND I CAN PROVE IT!!"

    Funny how a Trucker-God driver like Crazy D cant see the benefits of an EOBR in the courtroom, but he is probably way too busy running at his 24/7/366 Trucker-God pace to really care. He is also probably way to busy "stealing" loads while we are hostage to our "voluntary" EOBR's! LOL

    Guys like Crazy D just dont see the whole picture I guess. Since I am stupid and run for pennies and he runs for dollars, I probably should not be calling him out like this. He is my new god, and I should worship him appropriately or he will steal EVERYTHING I own, not just my loads. Obviously he will never have to worry about any silly EOBR just like Honey Badger never worries about S h it !!

    I have to say, that as a "real" owner operator, I look at the BIG picture I already run my own system so that I NEVER have to run illegal anyway. Since I never "fudge" anything anyway, an EOBR is a great tool to end a lawsuit PRONTO;long before it becomes a hassle. I bet this has crossed your mind as well.



     
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  7. fireba11

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    Wow...the times they are a changing. From the day that I first grabbed a truck steering wheel I was taught that the load gets delivered on time no matter what! Guess the old school way of thinking is going the way of the cab over.
     
  8. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    Not really sure what you are asking here. I assume that this is in regard to the OFF DUTY DRIVING point I mentioned in the post you reference. Since those miles are not involved in commerce by not being under a load or going to get one, not sure why you would need to account for them. But then, if one feels the need to, then the odometer takes care of that.

    But, you make a good point about an Elog being used as a defense against some hot shot lawyer. With the way the legal system has become, you just about have to dot all the i's and cross all the t's. And logs are one thing that can really get picked apart in court and a driver can be found liable. As well as simple things like forgetting to sign a log page or some other almost minor thing, that a DOT cop can write a ticket for. An Elog can really cover these instances. How one approaches this whole thing will determine how it will work for them.

    And it hasn't put a dent in my home time. I still get by the house once or twice a week and am off on weekends and holidays. All the while, I am not on any sort of dedicated run. I generally only run loads that are within a 500-600 mile radius of the house. And where I live, the Upper Midwest, there is a lot to keep me busy in that area without having to traverse the whole country. But I saw this elog thing coming a long time ago, and adjusted my operation. As much as possible, it is better to ride the front of the wave than have to play catch up.
     
  9. virgil tatro

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    I cant wait untill all the farmers, Ranchers, custom harvesters etc find out they have to have an EOBR before they can haul a load of hay or cows to the market I guess they will have to hire Schneider to do it..
     
  10. virgil tatro

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    All of the new proposed rules are nonsence and so depressing, so many good truckers are going to be put out of business by all of this, and i mean the old timers that have been on the road for several million miles. I know many that are running cross country in restored trucks from back as far as the seventies, that wont support an EOBR or a speed limiter. I know farmers and ranchers where I live that haul Locally eight months out of the year and the other four months Haul cattle, hay and grain to Nebraska and other areas that had no Idea about EOBRS untill I told them, and wonder how will it work for them? and how will they log when they slip seat trucks and will the old 1976 International Transtar even work with one of them Computers on it. in august we drove from our home in Montana to Columbia SC to see our son graduate from Basic training. then to Valdosta Georgia and some other running around and then back home, 5800 miles in seven days in my wifes mini van, and there is no rules against this But as soon as i get in my Kenworth I have all of this regulation. Not to mention, our Mail man delivers news papers starting at 3;00am then starts his mail route at 8;00am finishing at 5;00pm and he dont have to use a Log book or an EOBR..
     
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  11. Gunz444

    Gunz444 Light Load Member

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    That was what I was asking about. I would assume that you would have some sort or issue with those miles being logged and recorded when you were in an off duty status on the EOBR. The way I understand it, if you are in an off duty status, then you are NOT supposed to be moving or logging miles.

    I have been told by an insurance auditor that there really is now way to be in a commercial vehicle without maintain a log. Now I know that there are different internal regulations for different companies. I really don't think it matters whether or not you are operating in a commercial capacity or not. That was why I asked how you accounted for those miles vs your status on your EOBR.



     
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