Landstar is getting cheap.

Landstar is a little bit of a weird case. You see that post I made where their strength comes from a partnership between the agents and the trucks? There are fleet owners and owner operators inside Landstar who are doing very well.

Swift isn't about cutting anyone in at all. Just not what they are. Not knocking them, their lowest behavior is way higher than Landstar's lowest. Almost everyone's is.

 

What are you getting in returned of giving up 28%? Do drivers there have access to sky high paying freight? That's the only way giving up such a high percentage makes any sense to me.

 

That's exactly what it is. Some of Landstars agents are serious competitors of mine. As in they are providing similar levels of service for similar prices that I am. And that's not that easy to do. Some of them are serious competitors on our higher margin freight as well.

Landstar has some extremely lucrative freight going on for reliable guys. Now whether it's worth the various headaches that come from dealing with Landstar agents all day is an excellent question.

 

Their new contract is pretty bad , there's guys with older contracts then mine who would laugh at my rates , 67% of 98% on line haul , 8% for my trailer , it comes to 73.5% plus fuel surcharge , if you dwell on what landstar takes you'll never be happy

 

Okay more simple question, can Landstar drivers with their own Van or Reefer consistently average over $1000 a day after Landstar's cut?

 

That is correct.
But if you make $5K, $6K in a week, after fuel and their cut, does it matter how much they make?
Our rates are 20 or 30 percent more than what 99% of people make with their own numbers, AFTER LS takes their cut.
And this isn't the really good dog food loads.

Like I said, the only reason people don't work there, is because they can't.

 

Is that what you made at Schneider?

 

How about the fees on top of the percentage?

 

Gross or Net?

 

I mean I encourage people to go to Schneider. Cause I've read so much about that's where the big money is, but no one believes me.