You must pull a dry van for LS right?
You must not own or lease your own trailer right?
I just checked Flatbed loads out of Kansas City and I wouldn't mind being there right now. Multiple loads well over $2.00.
Freight gets slow every winter. I've been driving for 2 and a half years now and it's always slow this time of year.
I always take a month off at least during the Holidays. One, to be with Family. Two because freight is slow.
I always try to work hard in the summer so that I can have savings for the winter.
I would never work for a negative while hauling loads. Id sit in the truck or park it at the house first. Just doesnt make sense hauling someones freight for free.
Just my opinion.
Landstar Questions
Discussion in 'Landstar' started by Brickman, Jun 25, 2007.
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i am sitting at house...refuse to sit in truck stop or haul cheap crapp...
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Landstar earnings....5.5 day turn because of appointments..
Kansas city to St.louis MO- deadhead actual miles - 279
St.louis MO to Rochester NY - loaded at 44,000 at $2.00 a mile...
$2.00x 834 miles =1,668.00 actual miles were - 962
Rochester NY - Erie pa - deadhead actual miles - 200
Erie pa to Kansas city MO -loaded 35,000lbs at $1.27 mile
$1.27x 895 miles=1,136.65 actual miles were -1000
so we have to break the REALITY DOWN,NOT FANTASY...
ACTUAL EMPTY MILES = 479 DIVIDE BY SAY 8 MPG=59.8 GALLONS X (AVG 2.25)= $134.00 FUEL USED
ACTUAL DRIVEN MILES WERE= 1,962 DIVIDE BY 6.0 MPG =327.0 GALLONS X (AVG 2.25) = $735.00 FUEL USED
LOADED PAID MILES =1,668.00 - TRIP #1
LOADED PAID MILES =1,136.65 - TRIP #2
TOTAL MILES DRIVEN BY WAY OF HUB = 2,441 MILES
TOTAL ALL PAID MILES WERE = 1729 MILES
712 DIFFERENCE
Grand total of $2,804.65 to the truck...
know take $2,804.65 and x 65% (landstar cut) = $1,823.02
know take $1,823.02 - (fuel) $869.00 = $954.02 total to truck so far..
DEDUCTIONS
1- WORKERS COMP = $32.00 WEEKLY
2- PLATES AND PERMITS = $35.00 WEEKLY
3- FUEL TAX (AVG) = $40.00 WEEKLY
4- OIL CHANGES = $50.00 WEEKLY
5-BOBTAIL INS= $20.00 WEEKLY
6-PRE PASS = $2.50 WEEKLY
7- PHYSICAL DAMAGE INS= $11.00 WEEKLY
8- TRUCK PAYMENT (VARIES)- LETS USE AVG $200.00 WEEKLY
9- TOLLS ?- NEVER NO...
10- FOOD EXPENSE ON ROAD (AVG)= $100.00
11- LANDSTAR COMPUTER FEE= $3.69 WEEKLY
12- ESCROW- $500.00- TILL PAID (LANDSTAR)
13- SECURITY KIT $125.00- TILL PAID - HAVE TO BUY FROM LANDSTAR.
954.02- GROSS TO TRUCK
-494.19- DEDUCTIONS
459.83 - BOTTOM LINE AT LANDSTAR....
There ya have it.Know everyone can cut the corners like i no your going to do.We can sit here and dissect every last piece of the penny.But this is an average being an owner...
Know for the kicker...These rates you are looking at do not really exsist at landstar in the here and know...Most of the loads are paying below $1.20..
with alot of deadhead attached to them....
if i missed anything or miscalculated please let me no what i may have missed here....AND TRY TO BE KIND ABOUT IT...LOL,LOL,LOL
THANK YOU...davan2004 Thanks this. -
Thanks for all the information. I was accepted by Landstar but have been watching the board for information and I think I will give it some serious thought before I sign on the bottom line. Maybe things will improve in a couple of months.
1pissedoffdriver Thanks this. -
For comparisons sake only:
5 day working
IL to TX
TX to PA
all miles 2567
Rate to Truck $4226 (after LS %, my trailer) -
OOOPS hit wrong button
This was with nearly no deadhead miles, just lucky on this one. Also had a $1000 partial cancel on the IL to TX. That leg was 2 partials. TX to PA a truckload, but only weighed 4000#, actaullay a partial. Just no others available to go with it.
So $4226- $962 fuel (2567 miles / 6 mpg x $2.25 ) = $3264
less the $500 wkly expenses and fees as exampled earlier = $2764
Now, I feel lucky by putting this turn together the way things are right now. And will be p.o.'d when I cant repeat it for awhile. Not long ago, weeks?, those numbers were higher and easier to do. But here we are -
Also, I pull a stepdeck. And flat and step loads have been real ugly lately. And the fuel mileage on this trip was actually way above the 6 mpg figured with that 4k# load to PA. So I got a fuel bonus!
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This turn is a current one too, by the way. Delivering the PA in the morning.
And for the beautiful part of being an owner operator.... Last Thursday night I spent about $300 on the truck on odd mtc things that reared there ugly heads all at once. Of course, at the time of getting a 120 day Landstar full inspection. I never have that problem! Am always/ usually ahead of those things. Oh, yes, at Landstar you get trk n trlr DOT inspected every 120days. And it passes, or you sit. Fix it, or sit. -
you are the 10% lucky ones who have been working with agents and have solid relationship with the agent evidentially...
But that is 10% of the bco's...90% struggle terrible...its very sad...
so yes i agree with you...but again 90% are down and out....10% like yourself have been very lucky...keep up the good work.
I had that for years but everything went to crap.I lost alot of work and agents who gave it to cheaper bco's..
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JUST GOT OFFERED A LOAD TO ''MIAMI'' FOR $2.30 MILE...GREAT,RIGHT?
NOOOOOOOOOOO
NOTHING IN FLORIDA...500 MILE DEADHEAD TO GA. FOR 1.50 AND LESS....
STAYING PUT FOR NOW....
PHONE CALL THIS MORNING...KANSAS CITY TO SYRACUSE NY..2.00 MILE.
SAME THING....NO FREIGHT IN NY.....70 CENTS -1.40 WITH ALOT OF DEADHEAD TO PA OR OHIO...
STAYING PUT FOR NOW..My buddie took a load to salt lake city for 2.30 mile...He is deadheading a good 400-500 miles to get out...He is pissed....lol...lol
tryed to tell him...
My cousin is stuck in texas right now....2.00 to go in.No freight..Been there 2 days and he is deadheading out as we speak...pissed off.lol,lol
tryed to tell him...
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