Landstar??

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by "B", Oct 21, 2020.

  1. Cat sdp

    Cat sdp . .

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    Landstar good........$$$$$)
     
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  3. crocky

    crocky Road Train Member

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    Here is the difference. I'm not stuck hauling at the rate 1 company decides to give me. I have hundreds of brokers to choose from. If I don't like a broker I never have to work with them again.

    You do realize that companies like LS , Prime, Schrader all re-broker their best freight to make the price look lower? You think they aren't playing the same games that normal brokers do? Maybe they have some run that they are getting $3.50 mile on but they know they can get their leased on trucks to run it for $1.80 to $2/mile.. So they re-broker it to one of their other brokerages then back to skim money off the top before you ever see the load. So they say this is what the load is paying your 75% is X amount ours is this amount but what they don't tell you is they already skimmed 15% off the top before you ever saw it,.

    The only difference is you are paying them a lot more to have only one company to haul for and they are playing the same games any of them play. If it works for you and are happy then by all means continue but I'm just asking why many of you never consider your own numbers.
     
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  4. ready2truck

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    Only thing independent o/o pays that you dont pay at LS is a fat insurance bill. It seems like LS makes you pay everything that a independent o/o has to pay. ifta, elog, plates, 52/wk for insurance, escrow etc. So lets just compare net after insurance.
    Lets use the most lucrative LS payment which is reefer at 25/75.
    If independent o/o and LS o/o both make 200k. The LS owner loses 50k off the top plus 52/wk for insurance. That brings the LS o/o down to 147,296 after insurance.
    First year independent o/o insurance should be around 26k. That brings the independent o/o down to 174000 after insurance. After the first year the insurance for and independent o/o will keep dropping making that gap wider. Ive seen independent o/o paying as low as 14k.

    Is it worth it? That's up to the individual to decide. But to conclude "the pay to the truck" is the same is foolish.

    Now keep in mind the more money you make at LS the more money you pay. So if you make 230k it turns in to 57.5k plus the weekly insurance fee. Making it a whopping 60k after insurance. Bringing the net after insurance down to 170k. Which is still less than what an independent o/o makes after paying insurance grossing only 200k a year.

    "but but but I dont have to wait for my money."
     
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  5. mudflap77

    mudflap77 Heavy Load Member

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    Lmao the more you talk the more you show how little you know about how landstar works. Landstar doesn't skim off the top. What the rate that one of the hundreds of independent agents(load brokers) that I choose whether I work with or not, enters into the landstar system is what the customer is billed. Now is it possible some unscrupulous agencies have someway of skimming before putting it on the board? Likely there are some I can't say for sure.
    The agents are independent business owners with a contract with Landstar, just like me. They work for themselves not Landstar, just like me. Landstar does not bring find us Freight the agents/load brokers do.
    So please continue telling us all how much you know about Landstar.
     
  6. Cat sdp

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    I’d bet the ranch that Schneider double brokers loads to themselves......
     
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  7. crocky

    crocky Road Train Member

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    You sure seem very upset about this.. Anyway, you don't get what I was saying and I'm not gonna sit here and argue with you. Have a good day.
     
  8. mudflap77

    mudflap77 Heavy Load Member

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    Lol I didn't know calling out someone's BS is being upset. I'll keep it with all the knowledge you shared about a company you never leased with.
     
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  9. Bigtruckdrivah

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    I booked a LS load today for $200 more than it was listed at. I can also book loads that aren’t in the LS board. Its the same game.
     
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  10. crocky

    crocky Road Train Member

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    If you book a load from a load board at what it's listed at, either it was paying extremely well already because the broker needed it moved or you aren't smart. You ALWAYs ask for more money when you call a broker lol It's like a given you never book it at the rate they are offering unless it's already very, very good rate.

    Even with cars, I ask for more money when I'm booking them. Brokers know what they can put a load on the board and move it for so they always have wiggle room, unless the rates spiked for some reason you always ask for more.
     
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