Legalized Weed Issues ....

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by STexan, Dec 10, 2012.

  1. JaeBro62

    JaeBro62 Bobtail Member

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    There are drivers looking for an excuse for something they want to do, or are partaking in already, which they seem to believe will get them an exception should they test positive from a "weekend party".
    Those are the drivers we don't need behind the wheel driving a truck, who will be ready to say " it was a contact high I wasn't smoking MJ" when they test positive.
    Drug testing for truck drivers, wasn't done in the past, the same for the
    "driver endorsements" not a problem then, you knew how to operate your equipment, and was sober to know how to keep both oars in the water.
    After deregulation was where all these new regulations came to be.
    Just as you've said, "were not able to control our habits, and know there's a time and place for everything".
    The time has come, no alcohol or drugs in your system, while operating a commercial truck.
    Legal pot, is like legal alcohol, you have to control your habits.
    Adhere to the regulations that protects everyone, or stay home, and don't drive.
    "Roll the dice" and think the regulations don't apply to you, then you risk loosing what you work for, and look forward to your "cell block time" if there's a fatality from an accident that you tested positive from.

     
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  3. AfterShock

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    How foolish of the President to assume that the truth would overshadow the lies that prevail. It seems ol' Jack's script was correct, "You can't handle the truth".
    The presence of metabolites associated with THC don't, in and of themselves, prevent getting a job, deny student loans or government jobs. It's the laws imposed that are far worse than simply ingesting a substance.
    Perhaps the laws should be changed to include alcohol consumption weeks prior to testing. If any alcohol was consumed at all, --- even weeks prior to the test that detects trace amounts, the full weight of the law should be imposed. No if's, and's or but's --- guilty as charged. Go to jail.
    Yet you favor laws that aren't "fair" and are the reason why "lots of futures ruined".
    Kids are a product of their environment. It's how you've raised them. Don't like the way they turned out? Who to blame? Look in the mirror. Today's kids recognize bovine excrement for what it is. If you're spouting off inaccurate information, they know it, and that can cause kids to figure you're blowin' smoke about other matters, when, in fact, you may be correct. It goes to credibility. Like trust, --- once lost can it ever be regained?
    Even if the results don't pan out as you predict? How will you react to positive results? If proven to be, will you be able accept that you were wrong to believe what you've been told by our elected officials? You seem to have formed your opinion based on emotion rather than fact. How important is the truth to you? You obviously haven't done any real research on this subject. That's the truth

    By your own admission you weren't impaired in any way by any illegal substances to blame it on, yet you managed to be involved in a head-on crash. That sure doesn't reflect well on your drivin' abilities. There are those who would be of the opinion that you should surrender your commercial license for lacking respect for safety rules.
    Furthermore, are you aware that repeating one's self a lot is an early sign of dementia, usually Alzheimer's? You should have that checked out before you injure or kill someone.
    (But I bet you won't submit to any such tests.)




    Did I mention repeating yourself a lot?
    You're sounding like a broken record here. Was your crash the highlight of your career? You sure don't miss any opportunity to write about it.

    Perhaps your actions caused them to think you were under the influence of a mind altering substance, maybe due to how often you repeat yourself, or how convoluted your opinions are.

    And yet you were involved in a head-on crash. Sounds like you dropped the ball. Not your fault? How so? If you hadn't been there, the crash wouldn't have occurred. It's your fault that you were there. Some would conclude the crash was a direct result of your inattentive actions, --- you caused it. Even old-timers with 40+ years behind them make mistakes.

    A picture is worth a thousand words. You've more than made up for a lack of pictures with all the words you continue to repeat.

    :banghead::smt100:silent::dontknow: :smt015:sleepy4::sleepy2:
    :smt069l
     
  4. JaeBro62

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    The name you use here is enough to tell anyone that you do have issue's when someone doesn't agree with your opinion with pot smoking and commercial truck driving.
    I'm not writing to gain favor with you because, you don't agree with my opinions.
    So while you sit and find fault with the system, and other events of
    "doom & gloom" that goes wrong with your life just keep on living in your negative world of complaint.
    There's nothing to gain from wasting time with a driver who has nothing good to say about anything, who can't change his own situation which he complains about.
    Highlight of my driving career.....not a score card event for for me young man.
    But after 42 years this was a first accident with a fatality.
    My driving record speaks for itself, the question I pose to you and everyone who reads these threads, do you steer to avoid, or stay the course when another vehicle is traveling at you on a 2 lane highway.
    I can repeat for all to share to give thought to their own situations, that they would have a plan of action for themselves should that time happen for them.
    "Know it all hot shot drivers" like yourself, keep on living your time will come, and then you can cough up your excuse why you fell short of the regulations.
    I know there's no drugs or alcohol in my system when I report to work, so I had nothing to be concerned about taking 2 post accident drug test.
    For the Ohio State Patrol to tell me " that was one heck of a job you did to stay in your lane and control your truck, for this accident". I KNOW I'M GOOD DRIVER...! No alcohol, no drugs !
    The good Lord has Blessed me with this gift for driving, and I'm still around to tell my story, and repeat it as often as I want too...!
    No posting of pictures on social media till my case is settled, that's what my legal council has told me.
     
  5. darknessesedge

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    can see where when truckers are used to haul weed it there will be a lot of volunteers..lol
     
  6. AfterShock

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    Hmmmmmm -----
    They'll be resurrected, arrested, charged with DUI, tried, convicted, and sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole?
    Good point. Obviously there's a need to make parties illegal.
    What if the Fed-Ex driver was texting the motor coach driver?
    I doubt it. Everybody knows that smokin' pot makes a person too lazy to even consider undertakin' any additional activity.
    :sleepy3:
    He mighta zoned out from a severe case of cosmic munchies though.
    :spam1: :happy1:
    I hear that happens all the time.

    If the NTSB had been on the ball by monitoring every call the driver made in real time AS the conversation was in progress, who knows how that would factor into the final determination, or prevented the incident.
    I never know what to say in situations like that, so I remain silent. But now that you bring it up, what would you say to them for how they now feel about bus drivers?

    I won't make that call when I'm drivin'.
    The investigations into the incident won't be complete for a couple of months, yet you have the Fed-Ex driver tried and convicted in your mind. You missed your calling junior, --- you shoulda been a judge, jury and executioner.
    Both drivers involved had years of experience with spotless drivin' records. Actually, their records were at least as good as yours, --- all three of y'all were involved in a head-on crash that killed people.
    There are ways to beat the test and not test positive. How do we know you aren't aware of those ways and avoided a positive test result when you were really under the influence of something mind-altering? Or that a medical condition causing confusion influenced your reaction to the impending collision? Maybe you experienced a flash-back caused by all that marijuana you smoked back in the day?
    The only difference betwixt you and the Fed-Ex and bus drivers is,

    you're still alive and drivin'. With one crash already, who knows if it's the beginning of a pattern? To assure the safety of everyone else on the road, perhaps you should hang up your drivin' gloves. But, if the safety of others doesn't concern you at all, keep on truckin', --- and finding fault with everyone else.



    And, if that driver tested negative for the presence of pot, --- after admitting they were "going to test positive from smoking pot", would they be committing self incrimination?
    Perjury? False witness?
    :smt102

    What if, what if, what if, ....... indeed.
    What if you based your comments and opinions on facts?
    Imagine that.
     
  7. AfterShock

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    Actually, the fact is, not just "anyone" would come to that conclusion. Only you would be that incorrect.

    In reality, am I, ------

    :glasses6: Or :naka: ?

    You have quite an overactive imagination junior. What makes that so funny is that you actually believe the bovine excrement you dream up.
    Is that an invitation for me to stop tryin' to get through to you?
    "With a fatality"? How many non-fatal crashes have you been involved in? I've never been involved in a fatal crash, and I wonder how one would manage to live with killin' someone.
    I'm told the correct answer to that is to remain in my own lane.
    I have to agree. When it comes to repeating, you're the undisputed champion.
    Once again, without a shred of evidence, or knowing me personally, you've dreamed a conclusion without any facts to support what you imagine. Could be due to advanced age and too many miles, --- or you're just a mean-spirited person who delights in misjudging others that you see as inferior. Wrong is wrong, --- that's right.
    You say he said, but can you prove that you didn't just imagine that's what he said? Your credibility ain't exactly pristine here.



    It takes more than the absence of alcohol and/or drugs to qualify as a "GOOD DRIVER". Good drivers avoid crashes. You crashed.
    Would you repeat that? Again.
    "Legal council"?!
    Why would an innocent beyond a reasonable doubt individual have need for legal council? I suspect there's more to your story than you're tellin' us. Come on now, junior, --- fess up.
    Folks might start dreamin' up things about you, and they might be correct.
     
  8. Saddletramp1200

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    I am not a fan of purple, I like that truck tho. If I was rich, I would build one in black.
     
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    You know you're old when... I look at your sig pic and instead of staring at the bikini girls, I was wondering how much fuel the gigantic tanks would hold.

    Somebody please shoot me.
     
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    This is the most slippery slope in the history of man.
     
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    Here is my take on this that I posted in another thread.

    I support marijuana legalization, because as a former smoker myself I can tell you that I'd rather smoke pot than drink. It takes effect faster, wears off faster, and doesn't leave you sick in the morning. Obviously though, because of what I do for a living, I can't touch it.

    I have a serious problem with the idea of anyone losing their job because they got high on a weekend 3 weeks ago in their own living room. Granted, it's going to be different for the OTR driver that lives in his truck. But local driver that's home every night should only be held to the standard of not being impared on the job, in my opinion.

    Organized crime exists on the basic principles of economics, in their case supply and demand. Theoretically, you'll dry up the demand for the services they provide by legalizing their product, thus putting the corner pot pushers out of business.

    I wouldn't suggest legalizing everything. I draw the line at the white stuff. But marijuana is relatively benign by comparison.
     
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