Legalized Weed Issues ....

Whether or not MJ is totally legalized, has absolutely nothing to do with DUI laws. How is this so darned hard for some folks to understand? Driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol is against the law. I fail to see where the difficulty is in understanding this.

I am for legalizing pot. Just as alcoholic beverages are legal. It has nothing to do with legalizing driving under the influence.

 

I would agree, with beverages there is a timeline before one is allowed to operate a com vehicle.
and would also agree that tests can be done with pot that if someone wanted to use recreationally that one would have to also be under a certain percentage, and since pot stays in system longer I am sure someone will someday come up with a safe number just like what has been done with the .08 number.

people will be people and people will abuse one as well as the other and some will think they can drive and still get away with it like they do now, does this or will it make it any more ok whether legal or not.

 

Not in my opinion. DUI is still DUI. And yes, people are people, and a lot of them are stupid. It will surprise me if the number of DUIs increases due to legalization of pot sales. Pot is so easily available just about anywhere now, that folks who are determined to get it are going to.

My argument for the legalization of it stems mainly from a "waste of limited resources" belief.

 

drinking and drugs have been around for a long time, as far as seeing the numbers increase I wouldn't know, I guess one can look up yearly info on DUI's and determine whether the numbers have actually increased or decreased.

look at it like this.....

one would think that cigarette sales would be lower especially with the advertising put on packages and the different commercials that have been aired....one would also think since e-cigs came out that cigarette sales again would drop that much more but in reality do you think with the higher costs, etc that sales really have dropped off that much or to an amount where a company would have to cut back or go out of business?

i think the only change one might see in the new mj laws is maybe more and more drivers may get caught up in the recreational part and end up losing cdls etc....so in that area you may be correct but in the overall DUI issue I really doubt you will see any changes if any significant amount to be even an issue.

 

I don't understand what the big god #### deal is, if someone wants to smoke a little pot at home for the weekend why shouldn't they be able to? It's no #### different than having a few beers, except I've never heard of anyone high on pot going out and getting into altercations, or killing themselves or someone else while driving... I don't understand why so many of you geniuses think that anyone who is pro legalization wants to drive down the road smokin a fatty, using that logic then anyone who has a few beers when at home must mean they have a 12 pack between the seats... You took Tylenol for that headache? You must be popping Molly's too..

 

I just need to figure out a way to fit this back in the bunk!

 

the big deal is the amount of time it stays in system, the other thing is that it hasn't been legalized under federal gooberment. I would agree if one is on hometime and away from duties one should be able to do as one pleases as long as it is legal. But that will take time, and depending on how much states make and profit not only from sales but from other areas that relate to this subject before everyone jumps on bandwagon and federal gooberment changes the rules and regs.

 

I realize that, the whole point of that post was that it SHOULD be legalized.. Secondly, the whole "it's in your system for 30+ days no matter what" is bullcrap, that's only true if your a heavy or regular user of it, joe average who may smoke it twice a year could smoke on a Friday and piss clean by Tuesday, unless he's 400 pounds...

 

That isn't true, one New Year's Eve when my friend and I worked for an o/o went to our o/o party, we were handed baggies of weed each and smoked all night long (for both of us it had been years since we did pot). The following week (being a small company and having and out sourced testing) my buddy got pop with a drug test (think this was on a Wednesday) he popped positive, and lost his cdl, had to go through diversion classes in order to get his licenses back, along with paying fees.

As as far as the 30 days I believe that it's true that the thc levels even though reduced to almost gone does last that long in ones system. And no we don't and still don't weigh 400 lbs I think he weighed about 190 lbs.

just best to do what is legal and leave the other stuff alone until it becomes legal if it ever does.

 

In order to sell "medical marijuana" the growers have to comply with state regulations, and receive the states license to sell, which allows them to use the banking system.
The states will have to report their information to the Feds, therefore I feel the checks and balances are in place.
As for consumers who purchase legal pot, I believe law enforcement will handle them no different then with alcohol related driving situations.
The cost for roadside alcohol or drug testing will be the expense of the offender, weather they test positive or not, you know they'll have some other related charge to hit you with simply because you got pulled over.
I agree with Ridgeline that your not going to see any allowance or exception from D.O.T. when it comes to drivers testing positive from pot smoking they did prior to going on duty.
His point about insurance companies, making the strongest challenges, along with the ATA for what that's worth.
There's no room for "pot smokers" driving commercial vehicles.
We have a uniform of standard regulation that protects everyone, D.O.T. has done that.
Now if you speak up for yourself that your going to test positive from smoking pot before a drug test was given to you, there could be a chance you'd keep your license to drive for a 1st time offender, but you would be subject to random drug testing for the next 5 years.
There use to be something like that years ago, and the railroad has something in place for their crews for positive drug test like this.
The nature of the offense for which you were being tested, would be key for being placed in such a program also.
Driving is a privilege not a constitutional right, and when you were issued a drivers license in any classification you have signed to say you will obey all rules and regulations for which you've been issued this drivers license.
You test positive from a post accident drug test, random, or re certification because of 2nd hand pot smoke, won't get you off the charge.
No alcohol or drugs in your system while operating a commercial vehicle.