Let's Hear Your "New HOS Rules" Proposal

I can live with the 11/14 but I think a 11/16 or even an 11/15 would work a little better. That extra hour or two would help all the dock bumpers. They are the ones stuck with excessive load/unload times

 

100% agree

 

Screw what the public thinks... They're the ones causing most of the accidents to begin with.. Are they getting an Elog anytime soon?

It's a catch 22. I'm in a performance based job, yet I'm limited to how much I can perform. My income can only go down... It starts high and it keeps lowering by day. Any time I lose, I can't make up.. I've been sitting this whole week just to load and reload. Since Monday I've only driven 300... In 4 days! And today I have a to pick up. They've taken over 5 hours to get me loaded here and I'm going to be late for my 2nd pick up... And won't drive much after that... Can't make up all this time lost.. wish I could just do this load to California in 2 days.. 2k miles.. it'll be a breeze from sitting all this time.

So you got the nany state limiting you on your hours you can work and make money.

Then companies since they can't make money on you delivering faster.. the new name of the game is fuel savings. So you get limited on how fast you can drive. I'll be happy with 75.. but no, we go 65 lol.

The most hilarious part, someone who started working in the 90s. Makes the same amount today thanks to inflation plus all these other restrictions...

 

Allow for 13 drive in a 16 hour windows AND pause the 16 hour window after 2 hour in the sleeper birth...
Ex1 you went in sleeper birth with 7 hour on 16' 1 hour 30 min later you go to drive line you would have 5 hour 30 min on duty left....
Ex2 you went In sleeper birth with 7 hours on 16 2 hours later you went on drive line you would have 7 hours available
It would pause it back to what you had
.... Pause is a poor word but can't think of a better way to put it.... That's for those that speak legalise to figure out

 

I've wondered if a smart E-log could be responsive to the driver's work schedule or allow drivers to Borrow or Bank time.

I'll start from scratch and say the driver starts out on the road with a base 12 hours of work/drive time, but with a responsive flexible log system.

Suppose the driver's first day on duty is slow and they only work 8 hours, let the system allow them to carry half the leftover time over since they didn't work as hard and could use the time to be rested up. In this example, they would be allowed 14 hours of work/drive time the next day.

Or suppose the driver's first day on duty is very busy and they would like to push on another hour to make delivery. Allow them to borrow time from tomorrow, but require 2 hours from tomorrow's log to get one extra hour today.

This is just a rough idea. I suggest only carrying over half the time because I don't want it to really lead to absurd marathon runs from built up time. I guess the same applies to borrowing time from the next day, but with a time penalty. If to much time is borrowed, it forces the driver to get back time or the system could require a Day Off Reset.

This might seem a little convoluted, but I think it would workout especially on an E-log system and could be worth it just for avoiding the stress of stupid countdowns. Needing more time just creates a penalty on tomorrow's clock, but you can at least get #### done today.

In a way, I think this is just formalizing what people want to do anyway.

 

At it's core, the rules should allow a driver to get MORE rest than the rules require. If you run a 11 hr run, and get tired, sleepy, the sun is coming up in your face, or there's rush hour in the big city, you SHOULD be able to stop for 2, 3, even 4 hrs without running out of time on your 14. You SHOULD be able to get MORE rest than the rules require.

I do like the Canadian version of this. Accumulated rest during the day in 30 minute minimum increments can be used to extend the 14 by two hours. I'd probably tighten it up by making it a minimum 2 hr rest break, but that would allow a driver to stop and take a nap and time his arrival with his appointment.

I understand this would be prone to be used/abused to hide on-duty time during loading and unloading, but so what? Sitting in the sleeper getting unloaded is, at it's core, not work. You could even write the rule so that the rest period has to be book-ended by drive periods to be used.