Let's Play Name That Part

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by madmoneymike5, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    I'd say that he's more qualified to train than most trainers that we hear people complain about in this forum.
     
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  3. fortycalglock

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    I was asking a serious question. You have NEVER properly Pretripped a truck. You don't know what a shock is, therefore you cannot determine if there is a defect in said shock, or any other part under the hood, and yet you're a trainer. While it is admirable that you are trying to gain knowledge, I would think a year a go when you started driving would have been a better time to do that. Since you cannot tell a defective from properly functioning widget, you have truly put every member of the motoring public around you at risk, including friends and family members of TTR. Not only that, but since you are "training ", you are multplying that danger every time a student graduates, and then a year from now becomes a trainer. That is the cold hard truth, whether you like it or not.
     
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    What makes you say that? I'd say he's completely unqualified to be a CDL A driver by his own admission, much less a "trainer". However, if highflight is in Orlando this week, I'll show him every part of the truck and describe to him how it works and what to look for if it goes bad. In exchange, he can help me change out my front springs or wheel bearings on the tractor.
     
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  5. lester

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    I gotta agree with what ^^^^^ that guy said.. I can't beleive it took that many post before someone did..First how do you pass your CDL pretrip test without knowing what ANY of those truck parts are? I know you get a cheat sheet with what your suppost to check, but don't you have to at least point in the general direction of said part? Then how do you train someone with No idea what any parts are? I"m glad you came here to learn but dang, I'm blown away
     
  6. windsmith

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    I don't think that it's fair to blame HIM - after all, his CDL school, DMV, trainer and safety director all found him competent to hold a CMV and work as a professional truck driver (and trainer). Four levels where he could have been stopped, and he passed all of them. While he might not know what a 'shock' is or a 'leaf spring', or a 'pittman arm', I'm sure he could tell if they were broken or not. The mechanic knows what those parts are, and will replace them if he identifies them as broken.

    Having said that, give the guy some credit for filling the gaps in his education by asking questions. You would do well to assist him rather than attacking him for working hard to do the right thing. Your comments have added nothing positive to this thread. Just sayin'.
     
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  7. madmoneymike5

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    Well, I appreciate your more recent post more than your last. It was at least constructive and not rude.

    As for your concern, I will admit that my foundation was mediocre. I went to a school that was contracted by a community college. I had no reason to suspect that my knowledge might be lacking.

    However, I have inspected every truck I have ever operated and looked for obvious red flags such as bent, cracked, or just plain broken parts, as well as other obvious things to look for like nails in tires, tires in poor condition, DOT tape, lights missing/out, etc. I also knew how to check fluid levels. In fact, my father is mechanic (albeit not a diesel mechanic) and has worked on cars for 30+ years. You can't go 26 years without learning a thing or two about mechanics.

    The law requires that you are satisfied with the operation of the vehicle. With the knowledge I had (which I consider the minimum required to be safe), I was satisfied with the operation of the vehicle.

    Being able to identify the parts by name is NOT a requirement. It is good-to-know information. To say that I have been a hazard to others on the road because I could not name the parts? I highly disagree.
     
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    Please let me see this cheat sheet you're talking about. I didn't get one. In fact, that's what I'm attempting to make with all these posts about parts...ironically.

    Yes, I pre-tripped the truck during my test. Yes, I was asked to name parts. Was "Pitman Arm" one of them? No. Was "drag link" one of them? No. Was I asked "do you see any cracked, broken, or bent parts? Anything that might seem 'awry'?" I said, "No." They asked, "Are you satisfied with the condition of the vehicle." I said, "Yes." They asked, "Other than a nail in the tire, name some things you would look for during a pre-trip on a tire?" I said, "Illegal welds, dry rot, low tread, cracks in the sidewall, belt showing, missing lug nuts..." They were satisfied with answers like these. This isn't an all-inclusive list, either. Lots of questions like these were asked.
     
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    Thanks. That was the root cause of all this. I liked that version, but am trying to condense it down into something like a small carry-with-you checklist. And as for the pictures, I'm creating a trainer's-guide for my reference. I suspect I won't need it after all this, but I'll also be giving a copy of it to my trainees for their reference and future use if they need it.
     
  11. windsmith

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    That might be difficult. The pre-trip inspection that my school gave out is 2 pages long. I suppose I could scan it for you if you're interested. It's basically the same as the one in the linked thread.
     
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