Local driver going beyond 150 mile radius

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  1. m16ty

    m16ty Road Train Member

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    I dive under the short haul exemption 90% of the time, but once every few months I’ll venture beyond the 150 mile radius.
    My question is, how do I fill out my log book when I go beyond 150 miles? What I’ve done in the past is get a new log book, and back-fill out the last 7 days, but I wonder if this is necessary? I know long haul drivers have to have the last 7 days available, but it’s that required for a short haul driver who has to log once every few months?
    Can I just fill out the day in question, and does it have to be a new log book every time I have to log miles? I don’t want to have to do more than I have too, but also don’t want to get stopped and cited for not doing it right.
     
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  3. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I would use one page and write at the bottom that I was local within the 150 mi limit for the past days. Show a range in dates covering the dates.
     
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  4. brian991219

    brian991219 Road Train Member

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    No, it does not need to be a new book. You only need to complete the log for the day(s) you do not qualify for the short haul exception. Once you realize you do not qualify you create a log from midnight of that day forward until you have taken a 10 hour break back at home and again qualify for the short haul exception. When I was running short haul exempt I would have months of logs in the same book, never was a problem.

    Here is a link to the FMCSA guidance on the subject, which is so old it still refers to the 100 air mike radius, however it is still valid.
    https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/hours-service/3958-q20
     
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  5. kylefitzy

    kylefitzy Road Train Member

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    How would you or an officer calculate your available 60 or 70 with out at least the hours worked under the local exemption?
     
  6. Diesel Dave

    Diesel Dave Last Few of the OUTLAWS

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    IMG_6334.jpeg I fall under that exemption rule, I have a 31 day hourly sheet and fill out my hourly time for each day. When you run outside your radius,(I have loose leafs logs)I just fill out my paper log(book)and that’s it. The next day when your local again, I go back to my hourly daily log. This sheet I use has a box at the end, you check that when you use a paper log.
     
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  7. brian991219

    brian991219 Road Train Member

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    They don't. Using the short haul exception a driver is not required to have any proof of their hours worked in their possession. If the officer wants to dig into it they can request the time records from the home office and the home office has 24 hours to provide them.
     
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  8. m16ty

    m16ty Road Train Member

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    Yes, I fill out something similar, but your not required to keep the time sheet in the truck with you.
     
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  9. Diesel Dave

    Diesel Dave Last Few of the OUTLAWS

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    Well, I keep it in my truck. If they ask for my logs and/or the last 8 days of hours, I just show them what I have. However, the last several inspections, they just ask me if I’m local and tell them yes, and that’s it, they don’t ask to show them. But I’m prepared if they do.
     
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  10. m16ty

    m16ty Road Train Member

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    I’ve just got to make a 500 mile round trip tomorrow (250 miles each way) and don’t want any problems.
     
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  11. Cat sdp

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    How often are you allowed to use it , 1 day in 8 outside the local area ?
     
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