Local government looking for advice on trash removal

Discussion in 'Waste Removal and Garbage Truck Driver Forum' started by Fredy, Mar 27, 2023.

  1. Fredy

    Fredy Light Load Member

    Feb 11, 2016
    Washington, D.C
    Hello everyone,
    I am an employee for a small town (510 households) and am looking for the financial/logistical implications for setting up a trash removal service. Our current provider is not providing adequate service and rates keep going up and up due to "market conditions". Anyone have experience with this? would one compactor truck be enough? What is the smallest truck that could work if it had be under 26k lbs? Any recommendations? Thank you
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. silverspur

    silverspur Road Train Member

    Sep 26, 2012
    What's the general location?
  4. Fredy

    Fredy Light Load Member

    Feb 11, 2016
    Washington, D.C
    Its a small suburn outside washington DC. Hilly area and less than 1 square mile in size. 1,700 people in last census. About 3 miles of road and 15 minutes to the landill.
    silverspur Thanks this.
  5. Eddiec

    Eddiec Road Train Member

    Feb 2, 2015
    Virginia or Maryland? If the average person generates 5 pounds of trash and 1.50 pounds of recyclables a day, that would be 60,000 pounds of trash a week and 18,000 pounds of recyclables a week. To stay under the 26,000 pound GVWR, you would need pick up twice a week. I would look into buying or leasing a multi - use roll off dumpster that you could stage at your maintenance yard. Have the residents bring their trash, compost and recyclables to the site and pay a contractor to pick it up and bring it back. Eliminates having to buy a truck, hire a driver, paying for insurance and tearing up the streets.

    tscottme, gokiddogo and silverspur Thank this.
  6. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

    Dec 11, 2010
    West Monroe, La
    I am sure its going to be a lot of variations, but to comment on your specific questions.
    It depends on what the city expects. Do they want all 500 households serviced in one day? Twice per week pickup or 3 times per week pickup?
    If you have to pick up 500 houses a day, no..... One truck wont get that. Possibly twice per week pick up, but now you need to schedule two routes at minimum. Monday & Thursday for route one....... then Tuesday & Friday for route two.
    If they want 3 day a week PU, You will be working a 6 day week.
    Now you have to consider what you're going to do if a tuck breaks down. You cant just run down to Ryder and rent a garbage truck.

    Is the city expecting someone to cover residential & commercial accounts?
    In other words, servicing a residence with a one cubic yard container (which you will have to provide more than likely).

    If they expect you to service business's, schools, courthouse/jail, walmart, Car dealers, body shops etc, etc.... they will need frontend load cans as well as some will need roll-off cans, especially construction companies that build new buildings, like houses & commercial buildings within the city limits.
    Some companies also will expect you to be able to take care of brush/limb/bulk item pick up. That's an extra truck & trailer.

    Now you need trucks to service these specialty containers.
    Frontend load garbage trucks & a truck to deliver, pick up and change out these front load cans.
    Roll-off containers will need roll-off trucks obviously.

    You'll need a location zoned and large enough for parking as well as office personnel & a shop to work on trucks. You WILL need a shop & mechanic... probably (plural) mechanics.

    You'll need a contract with at least one landfill... possibly more landfills depending on what commercial accounts you have & the waste you intend to haul. You'll also need a person who knows the rules & regs on waste, how to handle it & deal with it & DEQ.

    You're going to need several thousand $$ in the bank for federal regs including DOT inspections as you will encounter many inspections & violations per year.

    Again, as I mentioned above, more than likely when the city contracts with a waste company, generally you will be responsible for providing all aspects of the service including containers.
    That will be something you will have to buy MONTHS prior to providing services or collecting payment for services.
    I dont know what residential containers cost but 20 years ago, they were about $75 each... X 500, plus extra containers.
    Then you need an employee & a 3/4 ton truck with a trailer to to deliver, pickup & replace containers.
    A rolloff container depending on size....... 10, 11, 20, 30 or 40 yard container costs in the thousands of dollars each.
    Rolloff self contained food compactors for grocery stores and such are in the tens of thousands of dollars each, plus having them installed.

    I haven't even touched on a lot of the behind the scene costs:
    Insurance of all sorts
    Workmans comp
    Local, state & fed labor laws

    And all of this will commence, weeks if not months before you pick up even one bag of trash........

    Just know what your getting into. Its a highly regulated industry. And once you sign that contract, you better be able to provide the service you agree to provide or we will need to add in attorneys costs for that. You'll certainly need an attorney to help you with many things prior to a contract dispute.
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2023
  7. roundhouse

    roundhouse Road Train Member

    Jul 11, 2018
    First thing I’d do is talk
    To the adjacent municipality.

    the town next door is where I’d start , maybe you can hire them to do it .
    tscottme and gentleroger Thank this.
  8. roundhouse

    roundhouse Road Train Member

    Jul 11, 2018
    And no way you’re gonna be able to do this with a under 26k truck

    The city trash trucks that pick up my residential trash once a week , are ten wheelers .
  9. NH Guy

    NH Guy Medium Load Member

    Feb 26, 2023
    They have no clue how much those rigs cost, its gotta be nearly $1 million these days.
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  • Draft saved Draft deleted