I certainly would not log anything in, nor consider it. Would someone log it in if they were in a taxi cab, or riding in the backseat of grandma's Lincoln? LOL!
That only applies when riding as a passenger in the CMV you are assigned to drive. As in you're riding shotgun in a team or trainer truck. That needs to be logged on line 4, unless you need a 10 hour break to resume driving again.
Going to the source is cheating. Whatever you do, don't do that. Get your answers here and tell the folks at USA they're wrong because you read about it on the internet. In fact you can reference the forum. They'll probably scold you, but they'll be smiling on the inside and have a good story to help pass the time during the remainder of their day.
I will definitely do that. When I posted this, she had already left for the day. Yes, that does make sense. I have never had to do log books as I have spent the past 6 years driving school buses. so I wanted to make sure that my first instinct was correct. It appears by some of the other comments that I have made a newbie error in asking this here in this thread. Sort of like when I was a sub driver and asked the kids to help me with the route and we ended up on the other side of town. Sarcasm or not, the help is appreciated nonetheless.
So far, everyone that posted wanted to help; some just didn't know the correct answer. There's no such thing as a stupid question, regardless of how noobish you think it is.
The following is taken right out of the (book) the section does NOT break it down the way you are trying to break it down. The book says (TRAVELING) and it does NOT say how said travel is done. I tried to find a specific question in the regulatory guidance part of 395 but could not. However I found the answer in this PDF put out by the FMCSA. What you are looking for is on page 5. http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/truck/driver/hos/fmcsa-guide-to-hos.pdf (j) Travel timeĀ(1) When a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver at the direction of the motor carrier is traveling, but not driving or assuming any other responsibility to the carrier, such time must be counted as on-duty time unless the driver is afforded at least 10 consecutive hours off duty when arriving at destination, in which case he/she must be considered off duty for the entire period.
In regard to my last post, this is one of the primary problems with trucking today. Way too many people spout off at the mouth with their opinion about the FMCSA HOS regs without taking the time to actually read them, or they take somebody else word and they don't have a clue either. Log book tickets are steep in some states and it don't take much to get one. While there is not much chance of getting a log book ticket with travel time however try explaining to a state officer how you got from vandalia Ohio to say Van Buren Arkansas when your last log was in Vandalia and now all the sudden you show up in say Arkansas in your shiny new Prostar and did not take the required 10 hour break at Van Buren! This is why I wish people would take the time to actually read ALL the available information about an HOS topic before they show their ignorance and possibly take a chance of giving a newbee some wrong information that gets them a big HOS ticket along with some OOS time!! And with this post I am out of this thread!
