Log book question

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Salted, Dec 26, 2014.

  1. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    These are correct answers.
    Use loose leaf logs and never keep more than last 7 days logs plus today's log.

    There's an ignorant state trooper in Michigan that claims to be an ex- owner/operator and says he knows all the tricks with log books. He will try to scam you into showing logs over 7 days old and even ask if you have last months logs. If you show them he goes over them; one driver waited 2 hours while he combed over the log books. The only things he could find though, he said "you're running too tight" so I'm putting you out of service and having your truck towed, which he did. Investigation showed the state trooper always called the same tow company to tow trucks he stops. He does this daily and probably making tons of money on kickbacks from the tow company. There's an article about this state trooper clown in Land Line Magazine.
     
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  3. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I learned the hard way. I gave a dot cop in Iowa my whole log book and he went over it with a fine tooth comb. One day at the start of the month I didn't write the "24" down where you total the hours. I mean it can't be anything but 24, right? Soon after that our new books even had the 24 printed on them. But I got wrote on it. Went under "driver fitness, fatigued driving". After that, every day when I finish my log day I tear that 8th day back page out. Don't ever give them more thatn you have too. Don't ever voluteer any info, no matter how harmless it may seem to be. I do not even say anything at all unless I am asked. It's safer that way.
     
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  4. SheepDog

    SheepDog Road Train Member

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    AMEN Kemosabi49... Don't ever, I mean ever, give up anything/information that wasn't asked fo,r or that the law does NOT require you to give up.

    Chinatown...where abouts is this MI LEO you speak of?
     
  5. Lark

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    Excuse my ignorance but what is running too tight?
     
  6. rexmanno

    rexmanno Light Load Member

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    Running too tight?
    When I was driving I used loose leafs, never a book.
    I would start my day with a clean sheet, mark down what I needed as I was going on to make it legal if I got stopped during the day, in the evening I found that I could shave a few min. here and there, making it look like I ran real tight, then I also had no top speed limit in my computer, that way I could save on my hours towards the 70 hours.
     
  7. crzyjarmans

    crzyjarmans Road Train Member

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    That's one of the benefits to e-logs, it will only show the day your on and the prior 7
     
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  8. ChromeDome

    ChromeDome Road Train Member

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    I will repeat others, pull the staples. Loose leaf is your friend, and the DOT, while they don't like it, cannot do anything.
     
  9. 77fib77

    77fib77 Road Train Member

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    The only reason to save logs is for taxes. If you take per diem on your itemized tax write off. The old logs will prove you were out on the road. But you don't have to shown old logs to the bears. I ran loose leaf and tore out pages sometimes. Stupid Walmart distribution centers.
     
  10. walstib

    walstib Darkstar

    You can tear them out, it's fine, don't let people freak you out over that dumb crap...I rewrote logs EVERY DAY without fail...Next time someone says it's "illegal", reach in your pocket and pull out all your cash and bet them they can't show you where it's illegal...
     
  11. walstib

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    If you're on paper logs it's impossible to run tight! ;-)
     
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