Logging...an honest question.

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by snowlauncher, May 19, 2014.

  1. snowlauncher

    snowlauncher Road Train Member

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    Without anybody incriminating themselves, how many drivers log ALL of their loading/unloading time as "on duty"? I was talking to an experienced driver the other day and he recommended logging it as "off duty" or "sleeper". I know thats not legal but many drivers probably do it. If you are sitting in a door for hours long enough to snooze is it sleeper or on duty? It seems pretty hazy to me so I would like some feedback please?
     
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  3. Mountain Hummingbird

    Mountain Hummingbird Medium Load Member

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    Log it on duty not driving the again we get paid waiting time on slow shipper/recievers to the tune of 40.00 per hour but only if you log it on duty. log sleeper or off you are out 40.00 per hour after the first hour which you get paid for anyway as a pickup or a drop.
     
  4. STexan

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    If you want to shut down the nation and force log rule changes, all drivers should LOG REAL for a week on their eLogs. This would bring about massive missed appointments and pre-plans because our hours (and broken breaks) would not allow us to run the hours they perceive we can [do].

    Carriers take this practice for granted and have for perhaps too long and the next "strike" can be accomplished quite easily without ever stopping work.

    But until I've had enough, I log, at most 10 minutes for a drop hook/scale that may have taken 38 minutes. Minutes are too valuable when on eLogs to be burning them up if you don't absolutely have to, not knowing whether 15 minutes later on in the week may be the difference between a violation or no violation, you just don't know. We have all the miles we can (or care to) run and I will conserve minutes anywhere and everywhere possible, throughout the week to give me the most minutes possible to make it to the next closest truck stop later on, or to make the drop, so the pick up can be made so I can get home. I could go on.
     
  5. Mev

    Mev Road Train Member

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    Off duty , or sleeper ( if Im actually going to sleep ) while being loaded

    I do a 15 min 'on duty ' for check in/check out to stay legal since it is company business
     
  6. snowlauncher

    snowlauncher Road Train Member

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    So if you arrive at a customer with 3 hours left on your cap and it takes them 3.5 hours to unload u then you are in violation. I just dont get it completely. I know a driver who made 2 drops about 10 miles from each other with one hour left on his cap. Then he made it another 10 mi. to a truckstop to shut down. He was on time for his drops that way and made it safely to a parking place for the night. He was on e logs too.
     
  7. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    If you are resting in the sleeper, logging sleeper is correct. I don't know why so many people erroniously think that doing so is against the law?

    And if it takes them 2 hours to unload me? I still get paid detention even while watching tv in the sleeper... You don't have to log 48 hours on duty to get layover pay, do you?
     
  8. thelushlarry

    thelushlarry Road Train Member

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    No truckers I know of fudge their logs! Honesty is the best policy!
     
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  9. Mountain Hummingbird

    Mountain Hummingbird Medium Load Member

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    you can disconnect from the trailer at the 2 3/4 mark and go off duty or sleeper birth , then do an off duty personal use to get you to the closest sleeping spot. logg back in the next shift go on duty hook up trailer 00xxxy, then pretrip
     
  10. snowwy

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    problem with the elog thing. you said realistic time was 38 minutes but you only flag 10. so then you gotta flag some off duty time. adding more garbage then necessary to a clean looking log. with all those status duty changes.

    can you imagine if and when we all go the elog system. each day will literally be a 100 page book. off, on, off, driving, off, sleeper, off, off, off, on, more off. just to save some time for our weekly allotment.

    as for logging off duty instead of on duty. i don't think many are crazy enough to burn up their hours.

    DOT certainly hasn't said anything to me. but then, flatbedders aren't spending all day sitting around. usually.
     
  11. snowlauncher

    snowlauncher Road Train Member

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    I like the 15 min for check in, but is that really legal. Without looking at the green encyclopedia I think that ALL time loading/unloading has to be logged as on duty. Of course thats impossible at times but I worry that DOT could nail you if they looked hard enough at it.
     
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