Logging...an honest question.

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by snowlauncher, May 19, 2014.

  1. 8thnote

    8thnote Road Train Member

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    I pull dry van and I don't unload or load my trailer, ever. I log on-duty while I check in and back into a door. Once in the door, I go into the bunk and lie down. So I then put myself off-duty or sleeper. Why should I log on-duty if I'm taking a nap in my bed?
     
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  3. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    Ask me if I give a dam how the log graph looks. Apparently they don't care in the office either so long as we get the job done. I'm aware of how this loooks but if they want me to run eLogs as opposed to a neat paper output, they are going to get it the way they get it.

    I go off duty stuck in traffic at times if it's bad enough and slow enough. I have a particular route where I end up at my preferred truck stop with no more then 5-8 minutes to spare on my 11. If the new OK scales are running slow, I'll actually go "on duty" while in line to conserve drive time. Screw 'em.
     
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  4. snowlauncher

    snowlauncher Road Train Member

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    Again I agree and am inclined to do the same thing. Time is VERY valuable and its stupid to waste HOS while sitting or sleeping on a customer. I hear LEOS are starting to look at elogs with more scrutiny now as they are becoming more common and I wonder when they are going to catch on to this type of thing.
     
  5. STexan

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    I hope they do. That'll give me an excuse to "log it 100% legal" for a few weeks, starve to death then none of this will really matter anymore.
     
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  6. gentleroger

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    If the DRIVER is loading or unloading the trailer, or otherwise working on the vehicle it is technically line 4 - on duty not driving. If the DRIVER is able to "pursue his own activities" then he may log it line 1, off duty.
     
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  7. snowlauncher

    snowlauncher Road Train Member

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    If that is correctly stated then it clarifies my question. Therefore you may log sleeper or off duty if you are just waiting at a customer. Anyone care to debate this?
     
  8. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    Nope, gentleroger is correct.
     
  9. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    Don't let my sister hear you say that - she'll think the end of days is nearing.
     
  10. rank

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    What is hazy? Why would it be on duty unless you are helping?
     
  11. KeithT1967

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    There is no debate about logging off duty or sleeper at a customer. Check the faq on the fmcsa website. The ruling is clear. Once you are in the dock and not required by the carrier or customer to perform any duties you can log line 1 or 2. This was clarified after a judge ruled on a challenge to the 30 min rule. Same time as it was clarified that we were allowed to be logged off duty while in the drivers seat.
     
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