Logging Question - "Rollback Hours"?

Well another question....

Say you get to your last stop, you live 5 hrs away but you only have 2hrs left on 8/70, but 8hrs on the 14hr.....can you drive home?


K

 

I personally wouldn't push my luck more than one hour with empty trailer.

Bobtail I don't see why not.

 

I tend to agree with Rawlco on this one as well. The key word to remember, even though it is not technically defined in the rules, is "short distances". Just about every person charged with determining and enforcing the rules that I have asked about on this issue, all say about the same thing.

When you push outside of the 50-60 mile radius from that point where you were released from duty, it will raise an eyebrow or two.

 

Just as it is a judgement call on your part how far you can go, it's also a judgement call on the law enforcement folks part. And if it comes down to traffic tickets, their judgement always trumps your judgement.

 

The way I was always told by companies and some Dot when checked. If you are dispatched from your home you are technically on duty until you get home. Also on duty when you leave home. I believe from what I have been told, If you have any trailer connected loaded or unloaded you are on duty. If you are off duty per your company,and bobtail home you can log off duty. If your company calls you into work and dispatches you from home you are on duty. Mostly owner operators log off duty from work release to their home,bobtail and mty trailer. If a trailer is loaded you are on duty until you park it. The gray area is,if you are to do a pretrip with tractor and trailer you are on duty with a commercial combo vehicle. pre trip is required. if you are bobtailing home with no trailer you can log off duty. Then a gray area is if you get stopped by dot and he says you needed to pre trip because it is a commercial vehicle and he gives you a ticket,you might have to fight it out in court. I'm kind of with Turbo on this one.The other thing is,your companies workmens comp pays for you to and from work,technically you are on duty. pretty darn confusing ,isn't it.

 

This is a grey area as said earlier: I know Canada regs tell you exactly how many klm you can drive for personal use. The US regs do not make it very clear @ all @ least I don't think.

 

the grey area allows for tickets, but if you got a lawyer, i bet you beat it 100% of the time....

 

You might be right! It would be interesting to start a post of who has been ticketed for using their vehichle for personal use or comments made to them. Something I just hate to answer the question to, because I personally feel if you have been behind the wheel 11 hours and you drop your trailer, you still have allot of weight behind the wheel so driving 60 miles to home is totally scary, that is the way I feel though. I know me as a 4 wheeler driving 11 hours would make me sleepy (I must say I am not used to driving that many hours though) and going home would make me sleepier because I would be thinking about that warm bed and man to cuddle up to, I just might fall asleep or well "night" dream

 

I transport new trucks and the rules for us is : If you drive from home in a personal vehicle and DO NOT take a 10 hr. break ie: drive to a term., dispatch, and drive. you have to log all time from leaving home. Since we are paid for all time in a commercial vehicle, we are unable to log on line 1 if we are in ANY type of truck. We also occasionally drive rental cars which have to be logged on either line 3 or 4 depending on the circumstances.