Hello, my name is Kyle, and I currently have over 10 years in the warehouse shipping/receiving industry. I have noticed how grossly overpriced the lumping prices are for the company I am employed at (CNS Wholesale Grocers). I wish to start my own lumping service but I don't know where to begin. Any advice will be greatly appreciated!
Lumping Services
Discussion in 'Shippers & Receivers - Good or Bad' started by kyledz23, Sep 2, 2014.
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I would imagine a Tax ID. Negotiate an unloading contract with a receiver. Provide reasonable rates and unloads, and quality employees
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Well I can tell you have not be paying payroll to employees before. not to mention time waiting for the next truck.
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Good luck.. The days of just unloading trucks and collecting and paying in cash are nearing an end.. I think at smaller locations this is still acceptable but Lumping companies are much more advanced these days. Some of the larger distribution centers I deliver to have companies like Universal, Capstone, and Roadlink. I know Universal has fully automated systems and essentially manages the complete inbound side of the operation. They don't accept cash or any payment on site...everything is remote.. Who does CNS Grocers use as their lumping company?
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C&S. And it depends on the location. Some use Capstone (gak), some use FHS. If you go to the Brattleboro VT location, you pay C&S directly, and I'm not sure who the lumpers are employed by.
But I don't do that any more. Don't have to pay anyone to offload my tanker.Trucker61016 Thanks this. -
Haven't found a lumper service yet---That won't take cash--they'll all greedy ########--they say $150--I say $50--then i throw $50bill on table--they say thanx--done it w/all the big thieves
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There are places that post signs to the effect that no cash is the policy, although it's been awhile since I have seen one of those.
Fewer of the places I go to use lumpers, anymore and I usually keep enough cash to pay them rather than have to wait for a check to clear the several calls, also, a few of our regulars use accounts, and one of those no longer charges, although they do use a service.
Another thing is use of equipment if they allow a driver to take care of it, some places do everything but break them down while others expect you to use a pallet jack and pull them off yourself. I like the ones where they let you use a mule. -
Olhand lol.... Everyone takes cash right..?!! Well, that's what I thought until I started delivering out west to some of the Safeway DC's.. Universal Lumpers has a zero cash policy unless the DC enforces that.. These guys are pretty set up and most of there systems are automated.. I pay with CC so it's relatively quick..
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Hell of a racket though. $300-400 per truck for what one guy can do in an hour or two at minimum wage?
I did talk to a lumper in Hunts Point (Bronx) once who said that what the guys get for unloading is peanuts compared to what they bill, and there's rampant favoritism among the supervisors (who gets the "easy" trucks, which trucking outfits pay more vs. trucking companies that haggle,). He claimed that if a young buck didn't have any 'friends' among the supervisors, (or paid them off) he might only unload one truck all day.
I still don't get the liability chain. If the product & worker is in my truck I'm responsible, if the product and worker are in the warehouse, the receiver is responsible. If something happens in the middle? (I'm referring to dangerous practices I've witnessed with labor and fork drivers, seen a kid almost get speared by an distracted fork jokey. If the accident happened IN my trailer? Somehow it's my fault?)alds Thanks this.
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