Market Predictions

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by JimmyTwoTimes, Dec 8, 2022.

  1. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    That's the problem in this business, especially the Freight Market.

    To me it always seemed there's a low and then whatever the high is, it never really seems like it's that great of a high.

    Like if the high was covid money, that would be different. It will be nowhere near that.

    I have friends that are in other businesses then when their costs go up, their customers pay it, and their billing for whatever they do goes up.

    None of them can comprehend this business where your costs constantly go up, but what you get paid is like a roller coaster.

    This business people get paid up and down like the stock market but it never really really pays off, in my opinion.
     
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  3. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    To me covid boom rates were never as good as the boom rates I was getting back in 2012 thru 2014. Got a lot more pushback in the covid boom too.
     
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  4. JimmyTwoTimes

    JimmyTwoTimes Medium Load Member

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    Every time I'm making a market prediction now I predicate the statement with "I know I've been wrong about this for the last 2 years".
     
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  5. FloridaRetired

    FloridaRetired Medium Load Member

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    The used truck prices can't get much lower than they are. That's an incentive for new wannabes. So, you see many of them filling the ranks. Saturating the market.
    One prediction about the spot market is certain; whatever recovery you count on, it won't last long enough to really recover.
     
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  6. PPNLE

    PPNLE Road Train Member

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    My go to line is, "I've long since given up on prognosticating with any degree of accuracy, but if I had to guess..."
     
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  7. Iamoverit

    Iamoverit Road Train Member

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    Running for 7 year old rates in 2025 is an awesome example of commercial suicide. Even if the rates are the same now as they were 7 years ago everything in life has not remained the same. Literally everything you can think of has gone up at least 30 percent.

    If a man would have bought 30k worth of gold instead of a truck 7 years ago and sold it today he would have about 70k in his hands with a lot less wasted energy. Gold was around 1250/oz in 2018 and today it's over 2925/oz.
     
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  8. JimmyTwoTimes

    JimmyTwoTimes Medium Load Member

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    This isn't completely accurate (rates were actually pretty good for most of 2018 and if you ran well and worked hard in 2018 / 2020 / 2021 you probably would do a lot better than +$70K), but I understand the sentiment.
     
  9. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Theoretically, yes. When the rubber hits the road though theories don't always hold up when 100% reliant on spot freight.
     
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  10. ElmerFudpucker

    ElmerFudpucker Road Train Member

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    I’ve seen an increase for the last 3 weeks, but there is still an incredible amount of bs to wade through
     
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  11. Concorde

    Concorde Road Train Member

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    Be thankful you aren’t pulling a van right now.

    Right now is the worst I’ve seen it since everything started going south.
     
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