Mexico threatening trade retaliation

How about we start with you and Jimmy Hoffa uses facts for your argument. The FACT of the matter is there are not thousands of Mexican trucks lined up at the border ready to steal all your freight. There are currently 118 units involved in the Cross Border Program. Why so few? because most Mexican carriers have no desire to run up north.

That's what I do.

I want the laws, as written followed. I want our Agreements with other countries honored, just as we would expect them to honor them for us.

And yes, some businesses don't deserve to survive, through bad business planning, poor budgeting or plain stupidity they will eventually fail.
Same goes for homeowners, if you bought to much house, lost your job or got sick tough ####! People have had all these things happen to them for centuries and never needed a "bailout" funded by the neighbors, without the consent of that neighbor.

You have no idea about "my situation", but I will say at one time I was broke, I was hungry and I lived "below" were I thought I should. Nobody bailed me out, I bailed myself out.

Tell that to Mr. Hoffa who thinks the law of the land only applies for the betterment of Teamsters. Thousands of people will lose their livelihoods due to the trade war with Mexico, but since they are dues-paying, it doesn't matter to him.

The Cross Border Program does not involve illegal immigrants.

I've shown statistical proof that since NAFTA the hourly wage of the U.S. worker has increased at a far greater pace than pre-NAFTA.

Uh, no.

Productivity doesn't count? Basic materials costs don't count? Financing doesn't count? Research and Development doesn't count? Energy cost and availability doesn't count?

This is the god ###### twenty-first century, we have steel mills running at peak efficiency with 90% fewer workers than were needed twenty years ago. Is that a bad thing? Should we not use new technology to simply keep as many people as we can working?

No, Joe Six Pack would rather go out drinking with his buddies after work than attend a community college course to learn a new skill. He thinks the company owes him a future.

American workers got fat and happy, and those that did not plan for a rainy day are the ones hurting the most right now.

Bottom line, all Americans are paying higher prices due to the fact that Congress has seen the "error of their ways", according to Jimmy Hoffa. So the anti-NAFTA crowd can drop this "We're all in it together" crap. They could care less about Americans who will be hurt by this trade war.

 

118 now,,who knows how many later,as for wages going up after NAFTA-probably due more to inflation than NAFTA,as for enforcing existing laws---NO ARGUEMENT THERE!!!!. been broke and homeless myself due to substance abuse,got no help from anyone but Jesus(easy on the G#% Damnitts,my friend-please!). I just don't agree with all this outsourcing and letting their trucks run up here UNTILL the US has the authority to suspend the CDL of the mexican driver if he fails to comply regarding accidents,citations,etc. IF that mexican driver decides not to pay his ticket,his license will not be suspended in mexico by US orders. unlike a canadian driver who WILL lose his CDL.We have trouble extriditing murder suspects back to the US,,,you really think Mexico will ensure their drivers will play by the rules--hardly!! as for Hoffa,you are right on target..the unions are a very big part of losses of US jobs,they demand way too much. when the guy who empties the waste bins get the same wage as the tool and die maker,because he is union,,,their is definitely a problem there!

 

You know Jeff, we don't agree on much here, but you're right about Hoffa. Even after the DOT OIG report was released last week completely debunking his claims, this delusional little man continues to push his lying BS. And he should be proud of himself. His actions have put the jobs of perhaps 40,000 more Americans at risk.

Care to read about America's reaction to Hoffa and the new Tariff's?

You are incorrect about Mexican drivers and their licenses. Mexican drivers are not being treated any differently than Canadians. In the Department of Transportation Office of Inspector General Final Report this is confirmed. If you chose to read this report, it needs to be read in it's entirety.

We don't know whether Mexico would suspend a Mexican drivers LFC or not for transgressions in the US. That's not important. What is important that the information would be entered into MCDIS database and when he tried to cross the border coming north, he would be caught and denied entrance.

You know, we can nit pik this till the cows come home and the fact will still remain that these trucks have proven themselves to be equal if not better than ours.

118 trucks now? So what! We've had 100's of G&C carriers on the road for 25 years without incident.

I don't worry about what Mexico does or does not do. That is their business. My concern is they play by our rules when they are in this country, and thus far they have proven they can and will.

And you have to admit. The US has gotten rather anal over the years on our rules. And it has done nothing to improve safety, only enhance revenue collections.

 

Buenos Tacos,Mexico trucker,good to hear from you!!!!! Missed you on my last visit to laredo,,,,I'll be in houston monday. As to Hoffa,i don't support him either. you are right about the denial of entry if a driver fails to comply(tickets,accidents),but that is not enough!! My CDL would be suspended if i failed to comply with mexican law(if they reported to the US),you know how quick california would act if i skipped out on a ticket in mexico(within minutes!!) and i've yet to find out just how they plan on enforcing the emissions regs here in CA....Now if they really were playing by the same rules,,,,it could work like i've said before. I know drivers from mexico who came here legally to live and drive in the US. They told me how driving 20 hours straight was no big deal,,they did it all the time. Jose used to do Mira Loma to Dallas non-stop every time Ernesto gave him one of those loads.( I cut my teeth with a mexican reefer outfit-drove for them for 4 years). Marguarito wrecked 123 when he was on his second day without sleep,he rear-ended a truck on US69 south of Tyler,TX that had pulled to the shoulder.Alehandro wrecked the other Western Star in Oregon when he dozed off. Camacho totalled a car when he forgot to set the brakes after an all niter. Rafa used to tell me to buy another log book if i was out of hours. You might say i know a little about mexican truck drivers LOL!

 

I don't know about the rates that low.....
There have been Mexican trucks operating for at least 20 years in the US under loopholes and more than the 118 you mentioned.
Add to to that....what about the non-NAFTA trucks such as the Mexican owned dump trucks operating in California under an agreement with CAL-Trans and other various state agencies?
Not $.05/m but ahem... I can't compete with a Mexican O/O's who can run a super 10 at $50/h...or to put it in a relative term.....What if Mexican engineers were permitted to work in the US legally and at $10K a year for a salary? Would that be an incentive for Americans to go get a degree in engineering at the average cost of $40K for that education?
Most third world immigrants work for half or less than their American counterparts.

The solution is get them to same standards and pay as Americans or build a fence to keep them all out. Americans fought two world wars to make a better life for themselves and their children.
It used to be immigrants worked hard for the American dream and worked hard to become American...no more....they're happy to live as they did in their old impoverished countries.
Want an example for proof?
Take a visit to Lynwood or Pomona California....both cities used to be thriving middle-class areas 30 years ago. Today, both are very much like Tijuana.
If we continue to allow low-wage workers to come in and take our jobs, this nation will be one big Tijuana...

 

There are many brokers out there who are spoiled by what the Mexican drivers will work for.....
Tarped lumber at $.80/m ...last year's average was $1.20
12" steel pipe $1.00/m....Same pipe was $2.00/m from another broker a month ago...can't say demand is down....there were 20 loads on the ground from that shipper.
The main reason why the rates are like that, is because people will take those cheap loads. Who takes the cheap loads 90% of the time??????
If you were an O/O you know who's doing it.
The shippers and brokers don't care about service......they want a carrier who will take that cheap freight period and not question the rates.

I know what I can run at and I have turned cheap loads most of the time. The only time I'll take a cheap load is to get me to a higher paying load and that's rare, even now when freight is slow.

I do not want to see freight go the way of the drayage and the dump truck biz....

 

So Far, NAFTA has mainly benefited some US businesses, some Mexican businesses, and the Mexican worker. What magnificent benefits have the American workers received in the deal?

I had a load that I was to have dropped my trailer off at the San Ysidro border. A Mexican driver was to take the trailer and return it with a load. My wife felt very uncomfortable about the whole arraignment. The broker claimed he did this on a regular basis and everything was safe, the Mexican carrier had insurance ect...

So to ease her mind, I called the shipper and asked for insurance documentation, they would not provide us with any information other than their word. So we researched the whole deal further and found out if my trailer was never returned, I was S.O.L.; if the Mexican carrier got into an accident (with my trailer) on either side of the border, I as the owner of the trailer, was 100% responsible.....needless to say, despite the rate at $2.75/m, things didn't look very good.


NAFTA so far appears very weighted, and not in the favor of the US worker, nor the US O/O.

 

Free trade only benefits the very rich! By moving to Mexico or China, corperations can get away with what they can't here. They pay slave wages! They keep the people barely living so that they are too afraid to demand better wages les they get fired.They don't have the enviormental laws we do. Those laws were put there because hundreds of thousands of people died from exposure to chemicals dumped into the ground and rivers.They didn't care how many people they killed. Nobody went to jailFree trade will make slave of all but the elite and their cronies. Wages are already falling. Please get more info... see Zeitgeist II addendum, ENDGAME, and WAKE UP CALL. on Google Videos. They are free.

 

Stop with the "Schilling" for those conspiracy flicks...
Should we start bringing up prophesy from the book of Revelations or discuss the Mayan stone calendars?

Mexico just didn't suddenly become a "Slave state", it's been that way for a long time.

 

The issue is American sovreignty and preserving the American economy!I know Mexican drivers can drive! A nation cannot absorb tens of millions of foreign laborers that have little to no education and ship jobs to foreign countries and remain a sovereign nation!

We are in this financial disaster because we did just that! We will never be out of it until 2 things happen. 1st abolish the federal Reserve and set up a currency like Andrew Jackson put in place. 2nd, end all free tradte deals and secure our borders. We have a saying in the US... Fences make good neighbors.We should only trade for things we cannot produce in the U.S. We should only trade with countries that give us access to their markets under similar terms and for a restricted time period.
You guys down in Mexico may not know this but it is not the responsibility of Americans to fix the economy and provide jobs for the Mexican people!There is no excuse for that country to be in the condition it is. All of Mexico's problems are self inflicted.

pls see Zeitgeist II addendum, ENDGAME and WAKE UP CALL.