Minneapolis riots

no argument here, I just don’t like watching grown people unravel themselves based off corrupt news coverage.

 

National gaurd just put those arseholes on the run in mpls .

 

Yes, gerrymandering a national problem. Both parties do it shamelessly. But who is most often disenfranchised by gerrymandering?

"Budgetary shortfalls". A lawsuit followed. Discovery showed that the only DMVs impacted by the budget shortfalls were those that served predominately minority communities.

A few years latter the Walker administration attempted to balance the transportation department budget by terminating 3 bus routes on the north side of Milwaukee County. Their reasoning? Low rider numbers during rush hour - 7-9 am and 5-7 pm. Yet if you look at ridership between 5-7 am and 3-5 you'd see the buses at capacity. The people in those communities do shift work jobs 7-3, 3-11, 11-7. The government cut public transit from those who need it while leaving in place a bus line that ran from the north suburbs to a mall that carries on average 3 riders per trip untouched.

In 2005 the Bush Administration gave Wisconsin a bunch of money as part of No Child Left Behind. This money was supposed to go to "failing" schools that were also "underfunded" to turn them around. What did Wisconsin do? Some of the designated districts got grants of extra money on top of their state allotted funding ie if the school was allocated $50,000 from the Feds and was supposed to get $200,000 from the state the school got $250,000. While other distracts had their grants used as replacement funding - ie if the school was allocated $50,000 from the Feds and was supposed to get $200,000 from the state the school got $200,000. It was done in such a complicated and convoluted manner that no one caught on until it was too late. Guess which districts got screwed?

There are a lot of people claiming that there is voter fraud.

There is little to no evidence of voter fraud.

Read the annual reports from the WI Election Commission. Their conclusions for the last 10 years is that the majority of voting issues are due to poll workers making errors or errors in the State's record keeping.

If there was real voter fraud, where are the lawsuits contesting elections?

Your analogy is not apt. A better one would be:

A husband beats his wife. The wife goes to the cops. The cops say "can't do anything, he's your husband and it's not against the law for a husband to beat his wife"

Wife goes to the courthouse to get a divorce and is told she can't get a divorce without the approval of her husband or her priest. Her priest tells her "divorce is a sin".

Wife petitions the legislature to change the law. After years of work and being told "if you just got dinner on the table and kept the house clean he wouldn't beat you" and the like, the laws are changed and she gets a divorce. She gets a job, a house, and moves on with her life.

One night she comes home and finds her ex-husband in her house. She tells him to go and he belts her one. She calls the cops. Cops come and say "he's your husband, and he didn't really beat you, he just smacked you around a little, now go apologize for not having dinner ready".

Who would be surprised when the wife burns the house to the ground?

How many bad cops have gone to jail?

How many times have the police acted in a manner that violated their department policy, the law, and common decency and faced no real repercussions?

 

You got the wrong idea about me... about what I am thinking, what I am doing...
If you want to talk about George Soros and how he is using this situation to advance his ideals... go create a thread about it in the Politcial forum, if you have not already done it...

 

"He would be on the front line, throwing bricks...."
That's what you think he would be doing? Why?
Well... never mind.. this conversation will become political and the thread will be shut down if we continue this way... So.... never mind...

 

ok, since I am was not born in USA, can someone explain what the point of rubbing store near you?
Yeah ok, you got yourself TV , laptop whatever, where you will go next say for food? Where you will go next day when you gonna need new battery or brake on a car? You definitely did not have option to look around part exactly for your car ...
Also where do you think worker of that pace who you robed and burned live? On another planet??
That cashier probably won't work for few week until store will be restored( and IF it will be restored).
So...
WHAT THE POINT OF TEARING everything apart in a place where you live??????

 

energy goes where attention flows. And your on here like “look Betty, they got another car, oh my gosh Betty here they come, they just threw a bottle” man come on, your buying right into it. This is to be expected when evil people pull the strings.

 

Rocks, you are a reasonable person. You and I can talk about this without it getting political.

Dr King used protests as theater. He used his speeches and writings to narrate that theater and heighten the tension between oppressor and oppressed. He stressed over and over that non-violence should not be mistaken for passivity but was rather a militant commitment to change. The idea was to practice civil disobedience in such a way as to incite violence by the authorities, thus demonstrating beyond a shadow of a doubt the inequities and injustices. He was willing to throw black bodies into the machinery of Jim Crow. When Dr King tried to expand beyond the South and deal with racial inequities in the North he found his support from whites evaporated.

If you read his letter from Birmingham Jail, one of the lines is:

I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizens Councillor or the Ku Klux Klanner but the white moderate who is more devoted to order than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says, ‘I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action.’
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In other words placing order above justice will deny justice which will lead to dis-order.

A few years ago there were massive Black protests about a police murder. I don't remember where, and the fact that there have been enough police murdering black people that I can no longer distinguish between them is telling. When the protest blocked the interstate I believe it was the governor who said "Dr King wouldn't have taken the freeway". When in fact Dr King often routed his marches through the busiest thoroughfares and had the interstates been built the way they are now, he would have taken them.

A year before his death King said "riots are the language of the unheard". He followed that with:

"Urban riots must now be recognized as durable social phenomena. They may be deplored, but they are there and should be understood. Urban riots are a special form of violence. They are not insurrections. The rioters are not seeking to seize territory or to attain control of institutions. They are mainly intended to shock the white community. They are a distorted form of social protest. The looting which is their principal feature serves many functions. It enables the most enraged and deprived Negro to take hold of consumer goods with the ease the white man does by using his purse. Often the Negro does not even want what he takes; he wants the experience of taking.”
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He ended that speech with:

"Let us say boldly that if the violations of law by the white man in the slums over the years were calculated and compared with the law-breaking of a few days of riots, the hardened criminal would be the white man. These are often difficult things to say but I have come to see more and more that it is necessary to utter the truth in order to deal with the great problems that we face in our society"
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King's legacy is most often invoked at times of violent protest. It is used to tell people who have the most justifiable anger to settle down, embrace non-violence, work within the system. Overtly it is a call for peace an love, but in reality it is a a demand for silence.

I know you have a lot on your plate right now. When I was dealing with the same things you are I was not in a mood where reading philosophy and history was an appealing idea. I had things much easier too - dealing with the City of Chicago, Cook County, and the State of Illinois is no picnick but it's got nothing on the headache of Brazilian bureaucracy. That said, if you have time read through Dr King's speeches. Most of them are available online and it's intriguing to see the difference between the man and his modern portrayal.

 

What was the point of the Boston Tea Party?

Every rebellion results in property damage, looting, and wanton destruction. Some more than others, but it occurs.

In the NYC Draft Riots of 1963, most of the property damage was done to the "Lace Curtain Irish" by the "Shanty Irish" despite it being a rebellion against the wealthy upper class. It's a function of location and transportation. The further the distance a rebellion travels the more likely it is to peter out while the more local it stays the greater it's longevity.

Think of a snowball rolling down hill. Something gets it started, but in most cases after a few meters at most it will come to stop. Either the snowball loose cohesion or becomes too large to overcome friction. The same basic idea applies to riots. The further you have to travel to get to a protest, the less likely you are to go. The further you are from the community you "represent", the less likely it is that others will spontaneously join in.

 

Bump.