Minneapolis riots

why the looting and the rioting?well when we go to war do we protest or go to war?

 

Because they don’t want to pay for there Goods , seen the same #### with hurricane Katrina just low life thieves

 

Does anyone know if there are protests (riots) in any places outside of the city's? Because one thing I have learned over the years is city people and country people are very different no matter the color of their skin.

 

You’re unlikely going to see massive riots, protests, looting etc outside city areas. I think police nationwide need to be on guard as there will be ambushing attacks on them. But rural areas are unlikely to see much of this craziness

 

I disagree.
There were not that many African slave owners in the US at the time of the civil war. Many of those who went to fight and die for another mans freedom had everything to loose and really nothing to gain.

There was a quote somewhere that President Lincoln did consider not freeing the slaves in order to have peace. But Dr. King also considered not fighting against segregation in order to have peace. Thankfully both men pressed on.

From my own family history I know white pepole who paid a heavy price for standing up against racism.

Yes a vocal minority needs to ignite the discussion but if the majority is uninterested nothing happens.

An interesting example is the iconic photo from the 1968 Olympics of the two black fists raised. It cost the white athlete everything.
Peter Norman's silent heroism during the 1968 Olympics - ESPN Video

For better or worse we are all in this together.

 

Good anecdote. Here's another.

Grandfather had hunting dogs.
One of his favorites turned aggressive and bit him.
What was going on with old Rattler?Didn't matter he bit and was now a threat.
Grandfather shot Rattler.

Morale. If you behave like an animal be prepared to be treated as one.

Side note. Grandfather was one of the people who stood up against racism and paid a price. He stood up to the KKK in NC. It cost him.

 

My father was pen pals (and later)friends with John Carlos. And when my father passed he officiated at my father’s funeral! When Peter Norman died both John Carlos and Tommie Smith served as pallbearers at his funeral.

 

We're talking about 2 different things - the Civil War and Civil Rights.

Had Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation immediately following Fort Sumter then the North would have lost the Civil War. Kentucky would have seceded, meaning the Trans-Mississippi region would have been secure for at least a year. Recruitment for the US Army would have been non-existent. At the time Indiana and Illinois did not allow free blacks to settle there, southern Ohio was a hotbed of Copperheads, NYC was anti-abolitionist. At the outset Lincoln needed to make the war about preserving the Union and not about slavery. All white men could easily see how if secession was allowed to occur it would destroy the United States and allow European powers to reassert themselves in North America (see France, Emperor Maximillion, and Mexico) (see the Pig War).

After the Civil War we passed the 14th and 15th Amendments, then pointedly ignored black civil rights. Almost no attempt was made to stop free Blacks from being returned to a state akin to bondage. Blacks were considered second class citizens - in both the North and South. In the South it was overt, in the North it was more insidious. After Brown v Board there was significant, broad, support in the North for school integration. That is until it came to desecrating their own schools. The beaches along Lake Michigan were not legally segregated in the 1950s, but heaven help the white man who went to a black beach and vice versa. There was no legal prohibition preventing a black person from buying any home they wished, but practices by realtors and banks made it practically impossible. After 1964 CORE and SNCC started becoming very active in northern cities. Their financial backing dwindled and died. White northerners were fine with racial equality in other places but did not care to have it in their hometown.

Your Grandfather stood up to the Klan. That's something to be proud of.

Mine helped steal millions of dollars from hard working black families.

My Grandfather was a lawyer for a bank in Chicago. The main source of revenue for that bank was red lining, block busting, and land contracts. What the bank would do was buy property on the cheap and then sell it. Buy low, sell high, what's the big deal? If a white person wanted to buy the property, the bank would sell it for $50,000 and arrange the mortgage. If a black person wanted to buy it, the selling price would be $75,000 and no mortgage would be available. The black person would have to use a land contract. These land contracts make a CR England LP deal look fair and honest. Any missed payments and the bank could take the property back and the home owner had almost NO LEGAL RECOURSE. The bank would let the person pay all the expenses of home ownership - property taxes (the assessed value was often much above market), upkeep, etc and if the end of the contract was approaching the bank would fail to record the homeowners payments. They would cash the checks, just not record the payment. Even with receipts, even with good legal representation, the homeowner would fail to get the courts to enforce the contract. Not many made it to the end of the contract anyways as the total cost was often twice what a white person was paying.

Mayor Daley didn't want to change things. The majority of Chicago residents didn't want things to change. The only thing that brought Mayor Daley to the table in 1966 was the riots in Watts and the clear risk of similar riots in Chicago. Daley made a lot of promises, kept a few, but for the most part let reform die on the vine. Two years later Dr King is murdered and Chicago explodes. Only after violence and wanton destruction when the white people in Chicago felt threatened did real change start to happen. It still took 20 years and Federal intervention before fair housing laws were enacted and enforced. It took 30 years before majority black schools in Chicago got equal funding. Chicago PD is still playing games with black communities - arresting a guy for drinking a beer on his stoop while ignoring a 911 call about a gang fight that is about to happen. Yeah, that happened in 2017.

White people have always been involved in the Civil Rights Movement. They have been valuable allies. We have come along way from 1966 yet are no where close to experiencing racial equality and justice. All of the problems that face the black community are problems that face us as a whole. Each problem on its own can be discussed without mentioning race, but to do so is disingenuous. When looked at in total, racism is an unavoidable root cause of most of the problems we face.

 

Just to show it has become a ridiculous race bait effort it has spread down here to San Antonio and has involved attacking the Alamo again after 184 years. WTF! We have open carry citizens down town gaurding the Alamo because someone has vandalized it by spray painting white supremacy hate black blah blah blah bs on sacred property. Groups have threatened to burn it down and they were in downtown on the riverwalk looting last night. All I can figure the reasoning is because one of the new Spurs players came out on the news saying that Goerge Floyd was his cousin. The kids here are ignorant and don’t know anything about the history of the Texians and Tejas Mexicans who fought the battle to become a country of their own. Seguin, Gonzales, Floresville, LaGrange, San Jacinto. All named after
Mexican citizens who fought the battles along side their white brothers.
Real Native Texans DO NOT act like the folks that are tearing up SanAntonio, Dallas, Austin, and Houston.

 

Antifia is now considered a domestic terrorist group. This is covert war on George Soros, (but overt for people who know). This is great news. #america together. Be careful out there y’all trucking through these cities. Don’t get caught up in these undercover operations. I’ll be back on the road too probably this week. Got to wait on my keep trucking eld and camera to come in since VDO road log gave us the boot!