My advice on backing

BobbyMisc65 · Dec 15, 2013

OttMan said: ↑

And never, ever, ever do like this guy on the video bellow... Ha ha (watch it...) specially with your fellow driver at a truck stop.
http://youtu.be/9hAHWt4UZUk
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Ouch! I think camera's are becoming almost a necessary part of the truck yes? If not they should be; and why don't insurance companies require this as a mandatory installment? which asks the question - Is there - or better.. what camera out there is good for 8-9 hour recording; looping or re-recording; night vision; etc. Anyone - New thread maybe??

OttMan · Dec 15, 2013

BobbyMisc65 said: ↑

Ouch! I think camera's are becoming almost a necessary part of the truck yes? If not they should be; and why don't insurance companies require this as a mandatory installment? which asks the question - Is there - or better.. what camera out there is good for 8-9 hour recording; looping or re-recording; night vision; etc. Anyone - New thread maybe??
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Bobby, I have three dash cams. They recorded over and over, till you stop it. I Check mine every night on a fast way, you know.

Using the memory card with 64gb would go two days I believe. Mine is 32gb and it is enough for about 20 hours of recording.

I say I have three because one them has two, one of it at the cam itself facing the front, and the other with a cable that you can put it any where around the cab.

BobbyMisc65 · Dec 15, 2013

OttMan said: ↑

Bobby, I have three dash cams. They recorded over and over, till you stop it. I Check mine every night on a fast way, you know.

Using the memory card with 64gb would go two days I believe. Mine is 32gb and it is enough for about 20 hours of recording.

I say I have three because one them has two, one of it at the cam itself facing the front, and the other with a cable that you can put it any where around the cab.
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Hey Ottman, do you have a YouTube video blog? What type of camera's do you have?

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I have three because one them has two, one of it at the cam itself facing...
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What do you mean by this? Are we typing too fast my friend??

OttMan · Dec 15, 2013

BobbyMisc65 said: ↑

Hey Ottman, do you have a YouTube video blog? What type of camera's do you have?

What do you mean by this? Are we typing too fast my friend??
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I guess... Ha ha... You know, IPad sometime goes fast than the fingers.
Explanation: One of the the cams has a second wired cam to that fixed cam at the windshield. So the AV cable is 30ft long. The other cam has a dual cam, with 360 degree turning. You can record the road and the driver at the same time, or just one way, I mean, only the road or only the driver.

I have a YouTube channel but so far I have upload just one video, haven't been there for a while.

I bought mines at Amazon, great price, both less than $100 each...

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BobbyMisc65 · Dec 15, 2013

OttMan said: ↑

I guess... Ha ha... You know, IPad something goes fast than the fingers.
Explanation: One of the the cams has a second wired cam to that fixed cam at the windshield. So the AV cable is 30ft long. I have a YouTube channel but so far I have upload just one video, haven't been there for a while.

I bought mines at Amazon, great price, both less than $100 each...

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Both attachments would not work; sent me to an error page. Let me know what they are and I'll look them up.

OttMan · Dec 16, 2013

BobbyMisc65 said: ↑

Both attachments would not work; sent me to an error page. Let me know what they are and I'll look them up.
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Try it again bobby. I edited it...

BobbyMisc65 · Dec 16, 2013

OttMan said: ↑

Try it again bobby. I edited it...
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Nope, no good.. the site must be blocking it somehow

Jim837 · Dec 16, 2013

Another way to think about it without the "bottom of steering wheel" thing... I always tell myself if there's too much trailer going left then turn left, too much in right mirror turn wheel right.

OttMan · Dec 16, 2013

BobbyMisc65 said: ↑

Nope, no good.. the site must be blocking it somehow
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Hello Brother Bobby, were you able to open the link I sent on your page? Check it out and let me know...

lovespink · May 27, 2016

otherhalftw said: ↑

Bobby...your advice is basically correct, here is how I taught for over 15 years....don't teach anymore...patience went out the door.....

Use the steering wheel to your advantage! Everybody teaches "steer the opposite direction"...bad thinking, poor instruction!

Your visual part of your brain is already doing a "reversal" with all the information coming in through the eye...it has to reverse the image to be processed. So when you try to think "opposite" you actually are stressing yourself a bit more. Here is the trick I taught all my students for 15 years:

The top of the steering wheel turns the direction you want going forward, the bottom of the steering wheel turns the direction you want to turn going backwards.

The set up is the most important part of backing into a dock or parking location. Let's learn what I call the "Banana Profile":
1. With the units in a straight configuration, drive across the front of the location until the space between the tractor and trailer is at the midpoint of your location.
2. As you cross this midpoint, turn right to a 45 degree angle away from the point. Drive straight (45 degrees from the location) until the tandems are at the midpoint of the location. (You must be watching your drivers side mirror) As the tandems attain the midpoint turn the wheel left (again) to put a bend in the tractor/trailer until you have achieved the "Banana Profile". (The tractor/trailer has the same shape as a banana.) Now straighten up and continue until you have clearance of the drivers side rear corner of the trailer and the location the trailer will be backing into.
3. At this point, you should be able to smoothly "track" right into the "hole". Just visualize the line and adjust the turn aspect (declining) as you enter the hole and straighten up as you go.

LET THE TRAILER DO THE WORK...ADJUST TO THE TRAILER, DON'T FORCE THE TURN MOVEMENT BY OVER STEERING. The longer the trailer, the more time it will take to show its movement. Don't get anxious, be patient, and let the trailer make some movement, then you correct the tractor to the movement of the trailer.

1. When backing, place your hand palm down on the center bottom of the steering wheel.
2. Use the bottom as your guide for the direction you want the back of the trailer to move.
3. Having your hand, palm down, gripping the wheel will prevent you (with the natural limits of movement) from over-steering. DO NOT LET GO OF THE WHEEL!
4. Grip the window post (the separation bar between the wing window and the door window) with your left hand, and again, DON'T LET GO. This "anchor" stops you from moving around in your seat...every time you move it changes the visual perspective in your mirrors...SIT STILL!
5. A tractor/trailer combination will NEVER back in a straight line...you need to "add" and "subtract" turn movement constantly. A little adjustment either way will keep the units straight and where you want to go.
6. If there is no "guide line" painted on the surface, visualize the straight line you want to line the drivers side (sight side) of the trailer then the tractor onto.
7. When you start backing, pay attention to the tandems (trailer wheels)...these are your first and primary points of lining up the unit. As soon as the tandems have gone into the box, begin reducing the turn aspect of the tractor (bring the nose around to the "square line" with the trailer. Now change your focus to the midpoint of the trailer...just before the midpoint gets to the "line", get the tractor square with the trailer so there is no turn occurring...you have achieved the aspect of straight line backing once the tractor is square with the trailer and the midpoint of the trailer is in the box.
8. Keep in mind there are 3 "pivot points" to a tractor/trailer combination.
8a. Tandems are the rear pivot.
8b. King pin (drive wheels) is the center pivot.
8c. Steer tires are the forward pivot.
To move the tractor trailer either direction (right or left) you must accomplish an "S" configuration/movement with the tractor/trailer. Which direction you need to move the units is the direction you begin the movement. (This is for forward adjustments...if you have not centered the units in the dock.) To move it will require 3 steering movements...make sure the movement is sufficient (far enough forward in distance) to achieve the moving distance required (right or left). Just imagine you are driving on an "S" painted on the ground and follow it COMPLETELY.
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I can't figure out why I'm not getting this...

I never thought I moved around in the seat until I read this.

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