My experience with CR England

Discussion in 'CR England' started by SCHULTZ, Oct 21, 2011.

  1. SCHULTZ

    SCHULTZ Light Load Member

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    I started in Mira Loma California I flew from Hawaii to start driving for them I was told all I needed was a valid DL from my state or residence and SS card no biggy after getting to Cali I found out I needed a california residence and birth certificate and my DD214 because I was military so luckly one one the guys from the class allowed me to use there address to get my permit. The training was decent nothing I havent done before in the military got out there for my phase 1 training was out for about 3 weeks straight running from cali to nyc but my trainer was the issue he fell asleep at the wheel multiple times I heard the rumble strips and felt the truck swerve we sat at truck stops multiple times so he can get a lady or the night in a hotel room he constantly complained about everything and use to grumble about me pulling off the road to get fuel or what have you after 3 weeks I had enough and called dispatch sat at Mira Loma for 2 weeks waiting for another driver finished phase 1 went into phase 2 was driving from Las Vegas on the walmart account not bad trainer was good finished this phase and got my own truck and ended up with no pay dues I was a lease operator making no money for almost 3 months before I quit
     
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  3. Trini

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    Schultz,

    Is it mandatory for you to lease a truck, or is that optional. I am also military and will be attending the Mira Loma school on Nov 7th..Can you give me some good positive intel about the school? Thanks, your help will be aprreciated..
     
  4. THBatMan8

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    It's optional. When I went through the program, Phase II training was two months if you wanted to go company and 10 days if you wanted to lease. Now, CRE changed it to 1 month for company drivers and lease operators can bypass Phase II all together. If you don't have any backround driving or managing a business then stay away from leasing.

    My experience with CRE:

    I took the refresher course in December last year. I went through Phase I and II training within 3 weeks total. I leased a truck for a 6 month demo and finished the lease. I returned the truck and got on relief recovery for a few months. I left the relief recovery fleet for a permanent truck assignment. Now I'm a Phase I trainer on a company truck.
     
  5. MysticHZ

    MysticHZ Road Train Member

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    How long ago was your experience ... It's been awhile since CRE ran Vegas out of Fernley.
     
  6. SCHULTZ

    SCHULTZ Light Load Member

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    Trini

    No its not mandatory to lease you can be a company driver. I chose the lease option to start my own business. The instructors in the class are good once you get past the paperwork. All the issues come out when you get into a truck with a trainer. Your trainer wont have much more experience then you kinda wierd. For phase 1 training you will get close to 55 a day as long as you long on with the qualcom then once you start phase 2 you will be a second seat earning 12cent amile kinda sucks when the other driver is getting paid for all miles driven and given you about They are very strict on new drivers I got wrote up for doing the speed limit 70 your only allowed to drive 65 so I did a couple of mandatory safty classes
     
  7. SCHULTZ

    SCHULTZ Light Load Member

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    MysticHZ

    I worked for them in 2008.
     
  8. THBatMan8

    THBatMan8 Road Train Member

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    You're getting paid for all the miles driven also. If that truck runs 6,000 miles a week, you're going to get paid for 6,000 miles. If you expect to make 800+ a week while you're in training, you're in the wrong industry. That isn't going to happen no matter who you drive for. IIRC, since you drove England bumped up Phase II pay to 14 cpm. Yes you're a 2nd seat on phase II, but you're still a student. You're a student until you upgrade and get a certificate of training completion.

    The monthly safety classes are still mandatory even as a driver. As a IC, you don't really need to watch them, but you get a bonus for doing so.

    The lease program isn't really designed for solo operators. It's designed for team operations. If you run a team, you can make a killing off the lease program. If you prefer to run solo, you're best option is to go company.
     
  9. SCHULTZ

    SCHULTZ Light Load Member

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    I know when I drove for them I made $300 phase1 and $350 for phase 2 the owner operator I was under was making 1.25 or so for every mile paying me 12Cents it wasnt worth it once I became a lease operator I ended up owing some weeks and not getting money others it wasnt a great experience
     
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  10. THBatMan8

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    It's like I stated earlier, the lease program isn't meant for solo drivers. With the majority of leases, it's gonna take you 1800-2400 miles in a pay period to break even. Put yourself into a hole, and it's next to impossible to dig out of. You have to manage every aspect of your business to succeed. Example: if you don't need fuel to run a 800 mile load, don't buy any. Example #2: if you lose money in mileage, you need to compensate for the loses. The best way to do this is driver unload pay. If a lumper quotes you $400 to unload the truck, offload it yourself and pocket that money.
     
  11. PXI Incorporated

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    I can't believe what I just witnessed out here in Auburn, IN at the Walmart DC.

    I hope C.R. Englands trainers are better then that. Wish I would have gotten the truck number of the C.R. England trainer as I would have posted it EVERYWHERE!

    I don't, and would never advise anyone to go work for C.R. England and this was a fine example of why.

    The trainer was allowing his trainee to hook up to their trailer, problem was its wide open here and trainee was backing to trailer on a very hard 45* angle and the trainer instead of stopping him and teaching him how to set up properly, let him hit the refer unit.

    Guess its just the way it is there. Use and abuse the trainees, keep them untrained enough to keep them in your truck to keep making money off them.

    It was sad as I'm sure the trainer will report that it was the trainees fault when in reality the trainer was the only one to blame.

    I wish all NEWBIES luck with what choices you have out there, not too many good ones.
     
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