My latest elog question??

Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by Hulld, Aug 10, 2017.

  1. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    According to the last bullet point, records are deleted after they are no longer required. The cloud-based system might not be a bad tbhing altogether...what happens if your computer crashes and you lose your electronic records? If you haven't been manually backing things up regularly, you're screwed if you are audited within the next 6 months. Even if you ARE backing things up regularly, you still might lose a week or two (depending upon how often you back up your files). One less thing to have to worry about.

    That being said, though, I'd still rather my stuff not be out there in the cloud. Being a "paper" guy (I print stuff off more often than not if I want to save it, as opposed to "bookmarking" a web page that might be altered or saving a file on the computer), I'll still probably print everything off to keep in my records instead of relying upon the to store it, whether it is in the cloud or not.
     
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  3. Hulld

    Hulld Road Train Member

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    This is true till they change the rule at a later date and now there is a life time record of data they can pull from.
    Also there is a huge concern if there is an accident and some lawyer is out for blood and a subpoena is sent to you for your records.
    The the language of a subpoena always reads " any or all information pertaining to..."
    This means that all info retained is to be sent to them not just the last six months.
    Now if only 6 months is retained that's all you would be required to send.
     
  4. Hulld

    Hulld Road Train Member

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    Vdo is the one I just bought and I have had multiple phone calls to them discussing this issue.
    I just got off the phone with them an hour ago in Allentown pa. and as off now record retention is on the cloud and indefinite.
    They said there may be a provision to change it to 6 months retention at a later date.
    So even though there literature you posted says differently that is not the way it is right now with vdo.
     
  5. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Sounds to me like false advertising, then.
     
  6. Hulld

    Hulld Road Train Member

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    That's possible....
    This is what the elogs delay being kicked around in congress is about.
    The whole system is still in disarray and is not ready to go live yet.
    They need more time to get things hammered out and written in stone.
    Heck of all those elds seen on the dot web site not one of them is certified by DOT.
    Every one of them is self certified by the company that makes it.
    This means that dot could say at any particular time that they don't recognize the eld you are useing and you are not in compliance.
     
  7. mhyn

    mhyn Road Train Member

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    how much is the monthly fee for vdo roadlog plus ?
     
  8. LGarrison

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    I know that the company that I'm least to deletes all logs that are more than 6 months the only way they can look at them would be coming to my house they better have a subpoena I'm the only one that will have a copy
     
  9. Hulld

    Hulld Road Train Member

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    I bought the solo so not the plus.
    there is no wireless and no fee.
    I did this purposely because I want it to be compliant but want to protect my privacy and have my logs stored at my place of business as the law prescribes and not out on a server somewhere out of my control.
    This is not the case!
     
  10. Hulld

    Hulld Road Train Member

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    Your company can delete all your past six months worth of logs that they keep at there office but when the subpoena comes it will go to the host of whoever provides there storage of the cloud and all your logs will be there and there will be nothing you can do about it.
    Why on earth when the law states your logs need to be kept at your place of business for six months do we need to store all of them indefinitely on an internet server somewhere??
     
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  11. LGarrison

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    What's the company has deleted the logs from that are older than 6 months they're gone completely gone they're not going to a server or to add since I have the digital log I have it on a dedicated hard drive that is not connected to the internet after it comes into my files at the end of the year after everything is done and I no longer need them I delete them so like I said if they come to my house they better have a subpoena for a search warrant
     
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