N14 swapping to M11

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  1. JD&N Trans

    JD&N Trans Bobtail Member

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    i have a 99 FLD 120 with a 96 M11 Recon celect plus. I am looking at a freightliner classic that has an N14 that needs a rebuild. Instead of rebuilding the N14 I was thinking of just swapping it with my M11. I am aware the engine mounts need to change, and I’m assuming I may need a wire harness adapter. Does anyone know exactly what I may need to do this swap?
     
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  3. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    @Dino soar, someones got a question for you.
     
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    Chubby Fly Medium Load Member

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    #### swapping a n14 to a m11. Now thats a sin.
     
  6. Shawn2130

    Shawn2130 Heavy Load Member

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    Now now, there’s nothing wrong with a M11.

    Sure it won’t have as much power as the N14 but they’re a great little engine.

    I drove a M11 for 4 years and liked it. ;)
     
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    Don't underestimate the little guy. RV spec had 500/1550
     
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    Shawn2130 Heavy Load Member

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    I wished I had the 500 M11. Would be a great experience to try.

    The truck I drove is a 330/1250.

    Works great grossing 106,000 lbs with a loaded stepdeck. Until I see steep hills.....

    Also has the Super 10 speed. Downshifts great on the hills.
     
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  10. Dino soar

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    I seem to remember reading years ago that the M11/ L10 will bolt in place of the n14/ Big Cam with the same motor mount position.

    Just to be certain, you have to take measurements from the center of the rear motor mounts to the center of the front motor mount. I would also measure from the back motor mount to the tail shaft of the transmission just to make sure there's no difference in the flywheel housing that you would have to alter your drive shaft. If it sits in the same spot with the same motor mounts I would think the rest would be the same.

    If you have a donor truck I don't think that swap would be very difficult. The things that don't match up from one engine to the other you can just take it right off the other truck. I don't know about the wiring, but if the wiring is the same you could just take the ECM from your parts truck.

    I have to say though, the classic will be worth less money with the smaller engine.

    If it were me, I would want to rebuild the n14 and either sell the other truck or keep it as a good reliable spare or local truck.

    Well actually let me change that. If it were me, I would put a big cam in it and be done with it. There is a place in North Carolina you can buy a whole brand new engine for around $11,000.

    But there is a little more to that swap though...
     
  11. Bean Jr.

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    Isn't L10/M11 shorter than a big block? Isn't that how they were able to fit into a 112 BBC truck?
     
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