Need dot consultant? Dot advice

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by iamdot, Apr 29, 2009.

  1. airforcetoo

    airforcetoo Heavy Load Member

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    but wait? You're still driving a CMV!?!? You're still causing fatigue which is what the DOT don't want ... I mean wouldn't that mean that you're still running down you're clock?

    And if I'm not mistaken, that's why in my company they made me sign a piece of paper saying that's why I couldn't get a second job.
     
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  3. kajidono

    kajidono Road Train Member

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    Oh, ok. I thought you were doing something unrelated on the first job.

    In that case, regular logs for A, keep daily log for B and you won't be able to drive after the total of both hits 70. Or something like that. You don't have to carry timecards with you, just your log with the in/out times and keep track of total hours worked. If they need the timecards to back up the log, they can get them from the office.

    You're right, this is a bit confusing with one being farm exempt.

    I think you could keep going over 70 on job B since it is farm exempt, but you'd have to be back legal with a 10 or 34 hour break before going back to driving for A. Really not sure on that. Farm exempt for me was toss the logbook out the window and run. I didn't have to deal with switching back and forth.
     
  4. virgil tatro

    virgil tatro Medium Load Member

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    did you know that if you dont make money (earn a revenue) you can drive your truck and trailer any where you desire and dont have to follow HOS rules or use EOBRS/log books? i learned this a while back in a conversation I had with a member of the ATA and then i called the FMCSA with the same question and got the same answer.. Not if you are not generating revenue.. now tell me all of this is for safety!!
     
  5. airforcetoo

    airforcetoo Heavy Load Member

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    yeah, I heard something like this ... don't know if it's true or if it's still the way it is but, a family member of mine told me that if I was bobtailing I didn't have to log it as driving time ... any DOT guru's out there that can enlighten us?!?!

    Though I'm screwed either way cause I got that darn EOBR Qualcomm going to line 3 on it's own :biggrin_25510:
     
  6. virgil tatro

    virgil tatro Medium Load Member

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    Its true, I called and asked if I could use my Tractor Trailer to move my family across country and if I did am I subject to HOS Rules etc. I had already done this two times but with all of the hubbub about HOS and EOBRS I decided to call the FMCSA and ATA and ask why I can do this using the same Truck and Trailer. And the answer was because I am not generating a revenue/charging for a service..
     
  7. Moving on Down the Road

    Moving on Down the Road Light Load Member

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    Well, I had the discussion with KY Transportation and I lost. If I unload, drop the trailer and go to Walmart to pick up a prescriptio that is on duty driving and those are recordable miles. So says KY.I am not sure why they even have non IFTA mile column in IFTA since no miles are non IFTA.
     
  8. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    It is the decision of the company. There is no real clear dot rule on this.
     
  9. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Good luck with this.

    I know of pickups that have been stopped empty and ticketed.
     
  10. Moving on Down the Road

    Moving on Down the Road Light Load Member

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    Oh an example of not having logs or IFTA with relation to FMCSA would be a farmer taking grain to market. His truck is not for hire. I don't know about anybody else but Walmart sure didn't hire me to come get my prescription and it sure wasn't incone generating for me. My pockets were a lot more empty when I left and I was lucky they even let me park on their lot.
     
  11. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    IFTA is not even in the picture.

    The miles are driven in the state where bought for the most part by farmers.

    IFTA requires all miles to be reported no matter what.
     
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