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From what I understood, was that, Post-Trip inspections are only required when the vehicle is returned to the point of origin at the end of their shift and would be driven by another employee on the next shift.

 

The law is pretty clear. It is to be done by every driver.


http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=396.11

 

I do that everyday at the bottom of my log book there's a space to check off and sign that the vehicle is safe for operation or of course there's a space for mechanical defects that need correction and what not,...

I couldn't see logging daily 15 minutes for pre-trip and then 15 for post-trip...


Roadmedic from what I have read on that law then my answer is correct?

 

Is the origin and destination still required to be put on the log? Most logs still have the spaces for this information but I have seen some logs that do not and it raised this question in my mind.

 

The post trip is required by the FMCSA.

Most companies require a pre trip as well.

 

You completely missed the point of my post.

And you completely bypassed my point.


Let me try a real world example for both of you...

Thursday I unloaded in Portland, OR, drove up to Rainier, OR, dropped that trailer at USG, grabbed a preloaded trailer and headed for Idaho.


Now, the law states that I must file an inspection report at the end of my day for all vehicles operated that day.

This means AT THE END OF MY DAY, I have to fill out three reports... one for the tractor... one for the trailer I left in Rainier... one for the trailer I'm currently pulling.

According to Roadmedic's interpretation of the law, I'm also responsible for performing a post trip at the time I fill out these reports.

Does this mean I have to drive back to Rainier and inspect the trailer I left there?


My point in a nutshell...

The law does not state that an inspection is required.

The law states that a report is required.

You can argue that requiring a report IMPLIES requiring an inspection... but no time frame is specifically stated for when this IMPLIED inspection is to take place.

In the above scenario, the reasonable solution is to inspect the first trailer sometime before it gets dropped.

The same is true for this fictional post trip that everybody claimes is required.

It's reasonable to assume that sometime before you go off duty for the day that you inspect your vehicles.

Nowhere does the law specifically state WHEN this implied inspection is to be performed.

 

If you cannot comprehend what the law says, it is not a problem for anyone else. It is quite clear.

 

LOL you funny.

The law is so clear that pretrip posttrip debates sprout up regularly like weeds.

 

Interesting, so in this case... state law would trump Federal law?

 

The question seems to be... IS one required to log time as off duty not driving for doing a post trip inspection? (Obviously the law states that a report needs to be done) However, I have yet to find a law, rule, or ruling that states one is required to log this inspection as, matter of fact, taking place in this fifteen or thirty minute period...