Need info on getting back in.

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by smokem, Aug 12, 2026.

  1. smokem

    smokem Bobtail Member

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    Question for the owner-operators in here.

    I've been thinking pretty seriously about getting back into it, but if I do it again, I want to go into it better prepared than I was the first time.

    When I did it before, there was a lot more to figure out than just whether a job paid good money. I had to learn how to account for fuel, labor, taxes, insurance, maintenance and everything else that came with running the business. At the same time, I had to make sure enough money was going home to cover bills and take care of my family.

    I also had to figure out how many jobs I needed each month to hit the number I needed, how long that meant I would have to stay gone, and all the everyday stuff that comes with living and eating on the road.

    A lot of it I learned as I went.

    So before I seriously consider doing it again, I'd like to hear from the people who are actually out there doing it now.

    What's it really like out there today?

    What has been working for you? What hasn't? What caught you off guard? What do you wish you had known before you started? And if you tried being an owner-operator and decided to get out of it, I'd like to hear about that too.

    I'm not recruiting and I'm not selling anything. I'm just considering getting back into it and trying to learn from other people's experiences before making that decision again.

    Any advice, experiences, mistakes, numbers, or lessons you've learned would be appreciated. Good or bad, I'm interested in hearing it.
     
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  3. Spyro2112

    Spyro2112 Medium Load Member

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    Same as it ever was
     
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  4. TheLoadOut

    TheLoadOut Road Train Member

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    but even worse
     
  5. smokem

    smokem Bobtail Member

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    That's kind of what I'm afraid of lol. What would you say has gotten worse? When I did it before, I felt like I was constantly trying to figure out whether I was actually making money after fuel, insurance, maintenance, taxes and everything else, while still trying to get enough money home to my family.

    If you were thinking about getting back into it today, what would make you say don't do it?
     
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  6. TheLoadOut

    TheLoadOut Road Train Member

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    For me most used trucks on the lot are heading into the "danger" zone at this point in their life, so you best have a healthy reserve to even get started, and in no way possible would I want a new truck payment if I'm running off of load boards. Then there's fuel prices right now, it's been almost 6 months of this when I remember hearing the war would be over in 2 weeks. So much still needed to be cleaned up out here, we've seen some action but these are the same folks that allowed things to get so messy out here in the first place. For me age might have something to do with my attitude at this point, if you're young and hungry, full of energy, go for it. At 57 I've been focusing heavily on my exit strategy hopefully in 10 years.
     
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  7. 86scotty

    86scotty Road Train Member

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    This question really depends on what you're hauling.

    But as for the costs and upkeep of a truck Not much has changed except everything's gotten more expensive.
     
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  8. lual

    lual Road Train Member

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    Choose your path carefully. o_O

    "It's hard to soar with the eagles -- when you work with turkeys" :confused: :rolleyes:

    -- L
     
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  9. jaffles

    jaffles Medium Load Member

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    Not sure if I'm the right guy to offer help as I'm on the other side of the world.

    But hit your bank up for a business loan application. You may not want it but the process of application forces you to map out, calculate, and allow for what you are asking. Its long and tedious but you will have a very good understanding of what's required at the end.

    My situation is I run bulk spring water 40km (25 mile) to bottlers then return. Its boring as bat #### and the roads are crap, however I turn 50k a month of which the business including 1 staff costs 50% of earnings, the rest is mine to share with the tax department.

    I run a paccar 2013 X13 emissions truck with 700,00km (435K mile) that has been into me 50K AU this year, plus needs an 80K engine rebuild. So I've gone a pre-missions 33year old truck as the new replacement I picked up for 45K, and spending 80K on rebuilding engine, transmission, diffs, air suspension, glass, rubbers, seat, radio and paint job. The plan is for cheaper operating cost for the next 10 years / 1 million klm. Not get into bed with a load repayment of 1800 a month. I accept however not everywhere will allow you to run such an old truck.

    Not sure about long haul and getting every job, I have a situation where I work for the source to run their water. The bottlers are like heroine addicts and always want more. So its really a matter of being reliable and helpful. I am grateful a national carrier with all their accreditation and flash trucks came looking for a take over, but good relationships with working parties kept the monopolies out regardless of the promises. So a close to home repetitive job for a mine, grain co-op or something seems harder to find, but better outcome than hunting for every meal.

    good luck with it.

    Ps, I'm not so good at it, but get acquainted with Xero or some accounting software your accountant uses. It helps track money in and out and what the show looks like.
     
  10. MidwestVanRunner

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    smokem, the thing that changed the most for us was not the costs, it was finally knowing our real cost per mile before we say yes to a load. We run a few vans out of the Midwest and the first year we did the same thing you describe, guessing at the end of the month whether we made anything. Now every load gets the same five lines: linehaul, fuel at actual gallons, driver pay, insurance and truck payment split per day, and a set-aside for repairs and taxes. That gives us a break-even per mile, and anything on the board below that we just do not touch, no matter how empty the truck is. Takes ten minutes a week once it is set up. If you build that before you buy the truck, most of the "am I actually making money" stress goes away, because you know the answer before the load, not after the settlement.
     
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