Needing some log help

How higher up?

The owner told me to do what I was dispatched. Safety said the logs must be legal.

They both said ALL OF OUR DRIVERS run legal. Yeah right. They log legal.

Tell them you want to run strictly legal, miles will starve you. 24 hours to run 256 miles. One day layover return trip, 256 miles.

 

It's how you percieve it sometimes but sometimes you are right so I dont know the case you are talking about. I do know some drivers will lose a load and not get another load or a short load but what's most important is you the driver is free! If you are in jail you can not make a penny for the family. At least running legal (logging legal) you will have a chance to see your family without the bars seperating you both.
Sorry to be such a bummer but it's the facts and I am here to teach the facts and protect you drivers

 

If you're prepared to leave the job , "higher up " could be the FMCSA . Record or otherwise document instructions to run illegally . Companies that think their drivers do a good job making their logs look good often get a rude awakening during an audit . U.S. Xpress was cited for falsified documents during a December '06 audit . Show averaging 60 m.p.h. through a 55 m. p. h. state and the auditor can call it falsification . They don't accept the daily speed average . They use software to measure driving time between duty status change locations .

 

No one was interested. I left in January.

 

The place I delivered to, we pulled out of. I watched 13 trucks come and go. Talked to many drivers. They said they do it to anyone that states that they are going to run legal. Starve them. They change their minds.

 

And if any one of those drivers provided FMCSA the information they needed to nail them in an audit in a few months the company would be running as legal as they possibly could . Driver abuse is self abuse .

 

However, you are omitting, (from your own link) logging example #4, where it specifically shows, and discusses, 8 consecutive hours in sleeper.
Logging Example #4


Violations: There is a 14-hour rule violation from 5:00 p.m. – 10:00 p.m.
Explanation — 11-Hour Limit: After 10 consecutive hours off duty, the driver had 11 hours of driving time available at 2:00 a.m. (CP#1). The driver completed 11 hours of driving by 10:00 p.m. and went off duty, so there were no violations of the 11-hour rule.

Explanation — 14-Hour Limit: After 10 consecutive hours off duty, the driver had 14 hours available at 2:00 a.m. (CP#1). The driver reached the 14-hour limit at 4:00 p.m. and violated the rules by driving an additional 5 hours without first obtaining either:

• 10 consecutive hours off duty; or
• 8 consecutive hours in a sleeper berth.

To remain in compliance: The driver should have either:

• Obtained one additional hour off duty or in the sleeper berth in the middle of the day (for a total of 10 consecutive hours off duty), or
• Remained in the sleeper berth for 8 consecutive hours, rather than only 7.

Had the driver remained in the sleeper for 8 consecutive hours, that 8-hour sleeper period would have been excluded from the 14-hour calculation and the driver would have remained in compliance.
Click on the link to show the log example for this item---log example #4.

 

It is the same, old story. The battle between safety and finance.

The safety department is there, to make the company "appear" legal, and appear to be following the FMCSA rules, they "discipline" a number of drivers each week or month, on log and safety violations, then when the audit comes they can document that they are doing the proper thing.

Dispatchers work more along the lines of revenue to the company, they aren't the ones standing before the judge getting fined and points on their license when caught. Maybe if the company, both dispatchers and owners, were to suffer consequences when they "force" loads and on-time compliance issue comes to light in an audit, the system might change.

In any case, IT IS THE DRIVERS RESPONSIBILITY TO RUN AND LOG LEGAL!

 

Real easy to do when you get loads like they sent me on. Maybe 1,000 miles over 7 days.

 

Yes it is easy to run legal in that case. However the good drivers, responsible drivers, keep it legal at ALL times.

I do hope you were on time! LOL