New 2014 Glider kit. 60 series Detroit or N14 Cummins

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by RKH, Sep 28, 2013.

  1. jaki express

    jaki express Bobtail Member

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    I am getting glider in march, but still thinking between Fitzgerald Pete 386 with detroit, 13spd, 3.58 or KW T660 with cat, 13spd, 3.42...pete is 130k and kw is 139k....any advices?
    Thank u guys
     
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  3. russtrucker

    russtrucker Road Train Member

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  4. mkmac

    mkmac Light Load Member

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    An 18 speed to haul 46,000 I think not, what a waste of money and extra weight.............
     
  5. mkmac

    mkmac Light Load Member

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    How please explain, I need to hear how..........
     
  6. swaan

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    Extra weight eh...... Mmmmmm. Ya I'm sure the extra 2 pounds over a 13 speed is gonna be a killer. Unless you opted for a 15 speed, a whopping 20 pounds on that. The 18 speed is a nice transmission for almost anything. There's always the right gear for any situation and start ability on a hill is superior to any other transmision. Yes it's worth it in my opinion.
     
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  7. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I'd take an 18 over a 13, the difference in weight is negligible, as swaan stated, and the ability to shift in hills is awesome, nothing else even comes close from my experience.

    A slower reverse is really nice, too. That alone is worth something, especially if you've driven one that didn't, like say, a tall geared 13 direct.

    The18 speed transmissions also seemed more durable, we had 13s fail as a matter of course with over a million, but the 18s just seemed to last and last.
     
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  8. fortycalglock

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    Is love to have a slow reverse. I think I was just sold on an 18! My 13A with 3.36 rears can be a little fast.
     
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  9. fortycalglock

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    Let's see a 5-6 year old Western Star with 600,000 miles is going to sell for 60-70,000 in today's market. So for 30-40 grand everything is new and the motor isn't coming up on rebuild time, plus warranties and new truck level financing. That's a no brainer.
    The EGR only Coronados are running $40-50k with 700,000 miles!
    Pricing is really strong in the used truck market right now. I bought my 2000 Western Star with 600,000 and a fresh in frame in Nov 05 for $39k I wish I could find that type of pricing again. That was at a WS dealer too, not some cut rate used car dealer.
     
  10. russtrucker

    russtrucker Road Train Member

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    If I take egr Detroit 14.0 on coronados. I would replace the stock ecm with egr delete/more mpg ecm or egr delete kit.
     
  11. Cowpie1

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    Well, granted the 18 is a few pounds more than the 13. But I got the 18 at the same price I could get the 13. Keep in mind, this was a glider so I was putting in factory rebuilt trans. The rebuilt 13's are in bigger demand so they command almost the same price as a factory rebuilt 18. And I can still scale 2000 more in the box than the company trucks with their 10 speeds and all the emission nonsense. So, weight of the trans is not really a major deal. And the 18 has a lot deeper reduction in the bottom than a 13, yet another mark in the plus column for the 18.
     
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