NEW ELD standard Triggering my E-Logs in yard movement

BS, it can happen all it takes is for drivers to stand up for themselves and force companies ( dispatchers and planners) into actually doing there job.

 

Good grief, man. You really don't have a clue about the realities of trucking, on all sides. People like you have been "standing up for yourselves" for the last 50 years and making the same gripes and complaints and what has changed? Nothing (or very little) Yes, I could "stand up for myself" and run purely legit and legal, but seriously, what is that going to get me? Have you ever spent time as a CSR or planner or dispatcher, or load booker? Obviously not. Have you ever wanted to plan to maximize earnings, but decided the best way was to assume the worst case scenario every single day, and never pre-plan, "just in case"? That's just dumb to work at 65-75% efficiency to err on the side of caution. You can do that if you want. You don't tell me how to drive my truck and I won't tell you how to drive yours.

So, I guess I am to assume you never exceed the speed limit? Never fudge your paper? BS! Or you live in a different trucking world than I do. We're paid to get the job done, no matter the unforeseen circumstances that crop up, year round, weather and traffic be dammed and that's the challenge I enjoy, I don't know what you're paid to do.

 

All these people talking a big game about how they'd tell the shipper/receiver to f off and reschedule the appointment because they can't or won't move. Are they actually going to do that when their paycheck has less numbers? If you have to reschedule multiple times a week, thats going to put a dent in your pay. Or shippers/receivers blacklist you for being belligerent? "Hi, company xyz? Your driver was on the property but refused to move several hundred feet to a door." Or, "Your driver is refusing to leave the dock." Be sure to let us know how that works out for you!

Its like all these people who think they're hurting shippers by refusing to haul cheap freight. You shouldn't haul cheap freight but you're also not hurting anyone. Nature abhors a vacuum and there's no shortage of other people to move it. Your little moral auto fellatio makes you feel better but it doesn't change much.

 

How is a DOT violation if Im in a private lot????? DOT can not do anything if I go drive around in talladega motor speedway for 24 hours straight, Bring it. Use your head

 

Ahem..... there's this ability that I've ahhh.... "heard" about from other drivers where you force your eld system to power cycle...If you have a truck like some off the cascadia that have the battery cut off, it'll shut the Qualcomm down, depending on the system like the older mcp50 Qualcomm, you would have about 4 minutes before the system is back up and reconnected to the ecm. The mcp200 had at one point, a in line fuse at the fuse box that could be pulled and it would take upwards off 20 minutes to restart. I'm also "told" that on the mcp200 you can force it into a hard reset by holding in one of the buttons for 30 seconds. It will surely show the change in mileage because there will be a soft discrepancy between the two. Do yourself a favor and do not log out, you will get caught.


These are just things I've been shown or told via drivers and shop guys at TMC, PGT, BTC, and P&S. I don't condone any of these actions and I can neither confirm nor deny using any of these actions at any time.

 

Yes I do live in a different world than you, a world of non addiction to industry koolaid. lol.
I am my own planer and I don't have any problems making ends meet with in the HOS and it wasn't a problem as a company driver either because I forced planners , dispatchers to do their jobs.

Never said I didn't fudge , go back and. Re/ read my post.
You don't have to work at 65/75% efficiency when you force people to actually do their jobs.

 

Let it burn then.

The trucks are not allowed to sit for any reason. If the industry realizes the mandates cannot let anyone turn a wheel until the sleeper time is over or reset is over etc. Then there will be hell to pay. Pay it.

When a million trucks do not load today the produce needed for the east coast in a week or less, then it's not going to be there in the usual timely manner. We might even see a time where some of it is lost to rotting or less than fresh when it does get to the store.

You cannot sit a truck, particular reefer trucks. If you do? Then you will not be able or allowed to remain in that job or make the wages you need to make to do well.

I can go on. But there is no point. There will be a huge inflation on tractors too old to accept or interface with a elog. Until these older tractors are eliminated from interstate commerce at some point in the future.

 

I run in the NorthEast a lot and most of the flatbed drivers there are either O/O or drive for a small fleet. Most of them are paper logs. Wait til they get the big surprise that not only do they need ELD, they cannot move the truck without triggering Duty Status change.

Good luck in finding a parking for 10hr rest breaks without needing to relocate your truck in the NorthEast. When everyone is force on the same rules, we will all try to drive at night and be at a truckstop before 3pm. Hmmm...if everyone does that, then there will not be enough parking..We will all want to be at the customer early morning, and anyone who gets an afternoon appointment is screwed. No parking for them.

 

EXACTLY! That's the ####ing point.

 

A cross county run? Thats 3 full days to communicate to the reciever that you can not make a 6 am appointment and will need it pushed to 8 am. That extra 2 hours gives you a full 10 hour break. Problem solved.

Don't agree to loads that force you to beak hos rules and all these problems go away.

How do you think these "elogs won't let me violate hos" posts look to law makers and highway safety groups who lobby those same law makers? Every time one of you guys makes a comment saying one of these things it just validates their stance on strict adherence to hos.