New O/O need advice

You are a owner u could do what u want. But that is why u guys like mileage because it puts more money in ur pockets. Nothing more nothing less. It why drivers have a hard time finding a decent paying job out here . No company wants to pay their drivers what they are worth which is hourly or percentage... pushing a driver 3500 miles down the road in 1 week for 60 cents a mile while u make 10k or higher revenue is slave labor... and anybody who accepts that is foolish.

 

This is why I stay anonymous on this board.

Haters gonna hate. lol

 

True. 3 weeks paid vacation and paid holidays the first year is also important.

Good for you. Get back to me when you own multiple trucks and have drivers. And when a driver who you’ve given a big percentage opportunity to buys a truck and tries to steal your customer.

If $75,000 starting out and upwards of $100,000 per year being a race to the bottom for drivers is your opinion then good luck! I didn’t say treat drivers as criminals. I said protect what makes your operation able to pay that much to start with.

So.... 3500 miles inside 70 hours which is $30/hr at the very minimum is slave labor? Ok bud. The driver drives. That’s his job. Whether I worked my butt off to secure high paying loads or invested big money in equipment or specific insurance does not affect my driver. So, why should he be paid the fruits of my labor? I’m already paying him handsomely for the fruits of HIS labor.

Get a grip folks.

 

First of all what a laughable attempt at trying to play the ego card and feel like ur better than others or think ur smarter because u own multiple trucks and drivers.... That is really funny to me.... U are supposed to be big smart business man but cant deal with a driver leaving ur company because u dont pay enough, buying his own truck and trying to steal ur customers... that is just business ... I should not have to tell you that because u are smarter than me, remember?

2nd of all , as the owner of ur company u can do whatever the flying hell u want... i could care less how hard u claim to work to find good paying loads or how much u pay ur drivers .... But do not ever complain u cannot find good drivers , when u pay them mileage pay and beat them down the road for 3500 miles a week....

All i said was from a drivers perspective , mileage pay is an absolute scam, most of us know that, but should be put out there more.. Hourly pay and percentage pay is the only way to be fairly paid . And most better than average companies do one or the other....

 

Yeah, was that "hub miles" or "book miles",,,% isn't any better, a % of what? By the hour is the only way, and that today, is as rare as common sense.

 

I was just saying sometimes it’s easy to feel a certain way until something happens to you that changes your opinion. I do pay hourly in a sense. I have a $1500 per week minimum no matter how many miles are driven. And only one of the trucks runs that kinda miles and it’s because that driver wants those miles. The rest of the trucks avg around 2700.

What if my truck grosses 10k on 2700 miles? Should I pay the driver 1.11 per mile?

 

When I was trying to find a trucking job with 4 years experience and a clean record everyone told me $65,000 was too much to expect for my first year.

Now, less than a year later, everyone and their pet goat is supposedly making $100,000 a year? Typical typical. This site has as much baloney as a truck stop lunch counter.

 

Exactly, drivers shouldn't know how much the load is paying, or they will start counting company's money and leave, just like you did.

 

I really don't like being refferef to as " only a driver" I am the face of your company. I need to look right act right talk right. Move right. I need pr skills. I need to know what date and time it is. In all three time zones. Both before and after midnight. I need to speak with and deal with the gruard shacks that won't let me in. Or the shipper / receiver that you or the agent peed off. I have to show my I.d. and give my phone number to 1000s of people I don't know. I have to run in personal conveyance because you booked the loads to tight. And didn't care about Baltimore traffic. I have to know every ridulus law in almost every hill billy back town in this country. I have to switch my schedule from nights to days and visa versa at a moment's notice. Cause " you got me a great load" . but If you pay me by the mile. Its not that effing great. I have to know weight distribution. Because you booked a load at 10k lbs but its really 44,345. You'll get more money but ill make more stops for fuel.
Take your " their just the drivers and stick it" I've been doing this five years. Never grossed more than 48,900. But my boss treats me good enough. I'd do it for another five.
You don't have to show your employees your numbers. I respect that. But with just the little bit of stuff I mentioned above, plus not counting who know what eles could be added to the list just from my experiences.like having to buy 27 straps in the middle of the night waiting to get reimburse.
You sound like a dead beat boss. I invested this and talked to this broker. And I got the insurance. And I have to answer the phone at 4 am.Yeah well bud, talk to me like that and you'll have a empty truck to show for it.

 

I didnt count anybodys money. I left the company i was at because i was being paid by the mile . Being run like a mexican donkey in the arizona desert... i can run the way i wanna run and book my own freight , and pay myself percentage because thats the only fair way to pay. Might run 1500 miles this week and make double what i was making at mileage pay.. Which would amount to almost quadrouple if i was still being paid off mileage pay. It is a scam and the companies that pay it , theres no surprise they are always looking for drivers.