New O-O w/ load board ?'s

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by truckingluis73, Jan 30, 2014.

  1. Tama Mai Hawaii Nei

    Tama Mai Hawaii Nei Light Load Member

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    You can be profitable off load boards it takes time and experience. If a rookie don't know freight lanes or rates he probably wont be very profitable. But say your a 10 yr industry vet know what area to go in what season where to go and be able to get a back haul and the going rate you will be able to turn a profit. Look at Mercer, Landstar etc these are basically load boards you pick the freight you want to haul and most these guys are doing well. Just learn the industry and you will do fine. You need to be hungry to make it
     
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  3. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    Mercer and land star use their own lad boards, consisting of their own freight, basically the same way we did it before the technology boom when we called in for loads.
    It isn't comparable in any way shape or form to public load boards with broker freight.
     
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  4. Tama Mai Hawaii Nei

    Tama Mai Hawaii Nei Light Load Member

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    They do your are correct but its like any load board. You see the load you want and call. Nothing special about it. Only thing that makes them any different is you have to use their load board to book your own loads. This is the difference between a lease operator vs owner operators I lease my dot number from no one.
     
  5. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    There is a lot more difference. For one, when you call a broker on a load from dat or its, you will only ever get the highest rate you can negotiate. In todays spot market, that won't be a very good rate. And the best paying loads are not being brokered out on the public boards. For instance, the department of defense is not putting loads on get loaded dot com. neither is caterpillar, lockheed martin, etc etc. They use large established carriers and brokers. The only way a one truck operation is touching that freight is through a brokerage firm that is going to keep twenty percent, thirty percent, and sometimes even more.

    That whole lease vs get your own numbers is a foolish arguement. 300 bucks and a coupe forms to fill our and any one can get a dot number. It's nothing special. And it certainly doesn't mean you will make more
    money. If anything statistics show its the exact opposite. Very few guys with their own authority net more than a guy leased to a decent carrier.
     
  6. Tama Mai Hawaii Nei

    Tama Mai Hawaii Nei Light Load Member

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    spyder7723 Any Tom Dick or Harry can haul military loads you have to get set up through SDDC (Surface deployment and distribution command) not every hard to do especially if your a veteran because of this the military has to make certain percentage of loads available to Veterans registered through the veterans Affairs and SDDC most the higher paying loads go to the veterans and if none are not available it gets kicked down to everyone else.

    Mercer 25%, Landstar 65% their trailer 72% yours or who ever is percentage based will always take a certain percent if they didn't they wouldn't be in business. And with most everyone else that's not percentage pays per mile rate you get a flat 1.10 per mile while the company is making 1.00 plus per mile off your back not very smart is it. To get loads from these major companies requires a MSA and become an approved carrier again not very hard ask for application put them on your insurance send it back wala go get a load I have done it many of time and 75% of my loads come from my MSA's.

    Now Mercer and a load board is the same regardless if its their freight or not you call in negotiate the rate if it works you go with it if not another driver will. Regardless where the freight come from the concept is the same. I have entertained leasing to Mercer, Landstar even talked to Eagle logistics. All work off a load board all you negotiate your rate all the same concept all take a percentage of the rate.

    Regardless where you get the load if its not under a MSA under your DOT your not going to get 100% of what that load pays. Your point is useless to say with load boards you pay 20-30% your gonna pay this regardless. And to say that a one truck operation cannot get DOD loads is just foolish argument as you say. Many of drivers are doing this and have been doing this since trucking existed.

    Now where are your statistics your speaking of. Since your claiming statistics give me a reliable source and I will look it up. Last I checked leased operators are barely making 1.05 to 1.50 a mile every owner operator I know makes between 2.05 and 2.50 per mile.

    But go a head with your $300 and get your own authority and see what you do. But if you think that $300 will get you in business your a foolish man. The cost is roughly $1500.00 doing it yourself or closer to $2500 if using a 3rd party not including equipment or required insurance.
     
  7. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    Alright dude. Whatever you say. It's not like it's possible I, or literally hundreds of others have had our mc number and then later leased to a well established carrier. we couldn't possibly know the costs involved.

    Also there is never a reason to pay someone to file for you. It's a few basic forms so simple a first grader can fill them
    out.
     
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  8. Tama Mai Hawaii Nei

    Tama Mai Hawaii Nei Light Load Member

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    Nothing wrong with that different strokes for different folks. I just never seen myself leased to anyone I tried it got burned tried it again still got burned then thought about it a third time and decided I had enough of that if I was gonna get burned hell this time it was gonna be from me.
     
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