New PA traffic circle claims yet another

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  1. mjd4277

    mjd4277 Road Train Member

    Oct 4, 2015
    No sense and crying over spilled milk!
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  3. teams567

    teams567 Medium Load Member

    Jan 3, 2022
    Here in MN they have quite a few roundabouts. I noticed at night they are hard to see on approach. Esp the newer ones- it's all dark and and only 1 yellow sign at the end to slow down.

    The roundabout itself is dark so it looks like a straight road going through. Fully loaded you can jerk the wheel and make that first turn, coming out is when the trailer will flip.

    Also they build the center high so you can't see the other side. Cars will whip through the entrance on the other side (no way to see them) and be able to hit the trailer as you pull out.

    Something to think about in today's litigious society.
  4. Concorde

    Concorde Road Train Member

    Jun 29, 2016
    West Melbourne Florida
    Crates of milk stacked to the ceiling most likely.
    High center of gravity loads are unforgiving..doesn’t take that much.

    Couldn’t tell if it was a quad axle trailer or not like I used to pull all over Michigan. If it was I’d have had the two forward axles raised for that rotary.
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  5. Tumbleweed TowMan

    Tumbleweed TowMan Medium Load Member

    Jun 22, 2022
    What is with that!?

    Roundabouts I see are the same as well, one small yellow arrow>circle sign, and thats it.

    The structures are always just above level with ground with a very slight graduation of rise, always dark colored, maybe a yellow line around it, and arrow paint at the entrance.

    The blasted things should be raised, lit up, DOT3 reflective paint, more for-mention signage, etc etc.

    I swear, mobile home parks have better navigation markers than highway roundabouts.
  6. mjd4277

    mjd4277 Road Train Member

    Oct 4, 2015
    Wisconsin has been adding them in a few areas in recent years as well to slow down traffic at certain intersections that were high risk as well. And some people aren’t used to them yet!
  7. Vampire

    Vampire Medium Load Member

    May 14, 2011
    This guy knows about roundabouts:

  8. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

    Jun 1, 2010
    Milk is not milk. What the cow eats, how much it moves, how long it's been "in production" all play a role in how much milk gets produced, what it tastes like, and what it can be used for. Then you get the after treatment of pasteurization, preservatives, packaging etc that further change the flavor profile.
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  9. 2Tap

    2Tap Medium Load Member

    Jul 19, 2022
    Southern Wisconsin
    We are blessed in Wisconsin to have adequate transportation funding and another reason i certainly feel safer driving a milk tanker here as opposed to over the road and not knowing what you cant possibly know. Roundabouts and other hazards are clearly marked with signs on truck routes. I will say that there are some overly complex roundabouts, Germantown and one up in Madtown where you have to know hug right, go all the way left and hug back right to keep your trailer off the skirt which you're allowed to use. People in personal vehicles don't realize you have that right of way and therein lies the true hazard.

    Grade A in Wisconsin has some pretty strict guidelines in the times from production, holding, transport to processing facility. Also tank washing & sanitizing are huge. I haven't seen any facility that doesn't do their due diligence and run a cursory antibiotics and bacterial profile test before accepting your load and then still sending the sample out for further lab testing. I'm guessing milk fat content, cream etc.

    It's my understanding moo juice is a pretty low margin product with patrons trying to get their herds to a standard set by a coop so they can then sell for that premium commodity price, usually cheese. Then I'm guessing yogurt and ice cream.
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  10. mjd4277

    mjd4277 Road Train Member

    Oct 4, 2015
    Quite true. Wisconsin passed a state law that allows CMVs to take as much space as needed to get around a roundabout safely. A few drivers there didn’t get that memo and they’re always trying to pass a truck in the roundabout-right at the tractor trailer “pivot point”!’
  11. 201773

    201773 Light Load Member

    Dec 14, 2020
    IDK..I like roundabouts. They speedup four way intersections, at least for the guy turning left.
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