new urea equiped trucks

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by gunner76, Jul 11, 2010.

  1. gunner76

    gunner76 Medium Load Member

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    I saw some pictures of a new '11 389 on a dealers site the other day and hope all the new urea trucks aren't set up like this one. It had a 48" flat top with a shorter wb and on the passanger side they had the urea tank mounted behind the step, followed by the fuel tank. I couldn't see how it was set up on the other side, but I would assume it just had the fuel tank mounted directly under the sleeper. I think it just looked stupid with one tank mounted under the sleeper and on the other side have it set back towards the back of the sleeper with the urea tank in front of it. I think it would look better to mount the urea tank in between the fuel tank and 1/4 fender and keep the fuel tanks even on both sides, or mount the urea tank on the catwalk behind the sleeper/cab. Or cut the fuel capacity of one of the tanks and split it like they do for wetkits. If this is the wave of the future, I'm going to have to go back to chassis skirts of keep the truck I have till I die.
     
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  3. Hardlyevr

    Hardlyevr Road Train Member

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    The urea is temperature sensitive, so they may have placed the tank there to keep it further away from all the heat from the DPF, especially when it regenerates.
     
  4. V8Lenny

    V8Lenny Road Train Member

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    You couldn't see it but you think it looked stupid?

    Who cares what the truck looks like if it makes money.

    I think brick like hood, outside aircleaners, stacks between cab and sleeper, long wheelbase without reason and round fuel tanks look stupid...
     
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  5. country29

    country29 Medium Load Member

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    to the contrary, on most pete's the dpf is housed behind the pass. side stepbox, so the urea tank is actually closer to heat. but it does look stupid and I wouldnt buy a new truck if I had to. just my .02 but if I was in the market for a new truck I would get a glider kit while I still could.
     
  6. DL550CAT

    DL550CAT Road Train Member

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    Thats why they make the KW T2000, Cascadia and most other frieghtliners for folks like you that dont care what the truck looks like you just want to hold the wheel and make a buck.
     
  7. gunner76

    gunner76 Medium Load Member

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    you're intitled to your opinion, but if I gotta shell out my hard earned money to sit in a truck everyday for the next 6-8 years I want something that looks good. I know alot of people who don't care what a truck looks like as long as it makes money, they are usually behind the wheel of filthy, beat up trucks with a large companies name on it. Also, I said I couldn't see the drivers side to verify the tank setup, I could see the passenger side and I didn't like what I saw.
     
  8. BrainHurtz

    BrainHurtz Light Load Member

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    You do realize that the frame layout for PB and KW is all about how the dealer and/or customer set it up right?

    The blame sits with them and not KW or PB.

    Also you don't want a Urea tank on the passenger side... that is just going to annoy the crap out of you.
     
  9. gunner76

    gunner76 Medium Load Member

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    Doonan Peterbuilt in Great bend KS has alot of '11 emission trucks and the way they are set up is whatever side has the urea tank(they had them with it on either side) has a smaller fuel tank than the side without urea, the set ups they had were 80/100,90/135, and 110/150 with the urea tank mounted in front of the smaller fuel tank. The best looking set up was the 110/150. I was planning on getting a new truck in three years and will have to see what the options are then, if you can get them with the urea tank mounted somewhere else and get two identical size fuel tanks, I'll probably end up going with a T660 or 386 with chassis skirts. Also, the one that had the close up of the truck from the step to the urea tank had the exhaust set up like on pre dpf trucks, with the flex pipe going under the sleeper, and not into a visable dpf box behind the step like on the current dpf trucks.
     
  10. BrainHurtz

    BrainHurtz Light Load Member

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    You can get a cross over between the frame rails if you can put the air tanks somewhere else instead of the right hand box under the steps. Also the tank differences behind fairings are not at all noticeable on full fairing trucks, especially if you get a smaller diesel tank on one side.

    KW also has a urea tank that fits above the fuel tank on the T8s.
     
  11. JohnP3

    JohnP3 Road Train Member

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    I googled SCR diesel technology, and under Detroit they have a list of Videos with talks from different trucking management type. I found it very interesting the positive comments they had about the 2011, DD15 mileage and performance.
    Just a thought!
     
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