New York State Troopers

BigTennOTR · Apr 19, 2017

Idk what the law is for running an inspection station...but if its the same as running a weigh station..it could of got worse.... ALOT worse

Ridgeline · Apr 19, 2017

Driverdog said: ↑

He seemed scared or maybe ashamed, I couldn't really tell.
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I bet he was trying to figure out how to ticket you after he let you go without a ticket. I would not put it past him that he will tell others about the nerve you have approaching him.

Driverdog said: ↑

I didn't get a fine, and my boss will still get loads for me, because he has contracts and doesn't have to find loads on the internet where people look at your safety rating. But I still feel violated. And twenty minutes ago, being passed by a cop car, I wasn't feeling safe at all, on the contrary I felt threatened.
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Really?!?

VIOLATED?

Threatened?!?

OHHHHHHHHH Please ... your boss will always get loads, this isn't a big deal and if you think it is, you haven't seen anything.

Driverdog · Apr 19, 2017

BigTennOTR said: ↑

Idk what the law is for running an inspection station...but if its the same as running a weigh station..it could of got worse.... ALOT worse
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I did not run the station, I realized my mistake and stopped. I would've run it if he caught me past the rest area. He did not catch me, I stopped I waited for him to show up

JPenn · Apr 19, 2017

I know the road you were on, I know the rest area you were pulled into, I can even tell you exactly why there is a path from the rest area road to the highway shoulder at that particular location. I-88 at Worcester, NY is very far from a high-traffic area, and if you were in the left lane passing at that point there is no way at all that you could have stopped where you did, if your view of the signs was in fact obscured by another vehicle. Your assumption that we are sticking up for the LEO is silly...he did nothing wrong or ethically questionable that requires a defense. He cited you for a violation which you very definitely committed, and did not decide to inspect your paperwork or vehicle further (and he easily could have, since that was the exact reason they were sitting there in the first place).

Again, you missed the signs for whatever reason, you got a (very small) citation, learn from it and move on. This is a normal operation in the Northeastern states...you're not in Kansas anymore, to be blunt.

Driverdog · Apr 19, 2017

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Ok, let's use a little logic here. This doesn't make any sense at all. I'll start with your contact with the officer, and his actions.
You ignored the traffic control signs. You were given a break by not being cited for this. So he wrote it on your inspection.
Now, I have to ask just what does he gain, by his actions. No way you can claim this is a "money making setup," for the state, as there is no fine here.
You say there were trucks in the rest area, but none were being inspected. Instead all the cops were gathered together, ready to pounce on truckers that tried to run their temporary inspection station. Now I'm guessing that if you have 3 years experience, you've seen more than one of these in the past. And how do you know that the trucks parked there haven't been inspected already? You can't know that.
Ok, you are released from the inspection station, you call your boss, and likely get a well deserved butt chewing.
So you decided to go proactive, and go back to see the signs you missed the first time. Well boy howdy! There are three signs. Not one, not two, butthree! So now you say all the signs were hard to see. Did you, by any chance, document this by taking pictures of them?
Ok, moving on here, you go back to the rest area, (temporary inspection station,) and confront the officer. You state your thoughts to him, and he "looked scared."
I doubt that he was anything other than pissed. Pissed at himself for giving you a break. Pissed at you for acting like a jackarse.
You more than likely have insured that this particular cop won't be giving any more truckers a break. (From all other truckers, thanks a lot.)
So instead of graciously taking the break that was given to you, and learning from this to get your head out of your butt, get your eyes open, and do the job you are paid to do, you come on the forum whining about the situation that you caused, yourself.
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I don't know about the trucks parked there, but I do know that the drivers of the trucks pulling in were looking all confused, like what do I do now, as there was nobody to direct them.

Now, you're right when you say that there's no money to be made for violations with no fine, but it does look good on Colpitts record that he caught a "massive" violation. Just as it doesn't look good on a cop's record to have a lot of clean inspections, that's why I've run into situations when after checking my logs they just made me go, without giving me the clean inspection. I'm sure you've heard of situations like that too.

Also, if there was a fine, I could've hired a lawyer to fight it, and I did state that in my initial post. You seem to overlook important stuff

Driverdog · Apr 19, 2017

JPenn said: ↑

I know the road you were on, I know the rest area you were pulled into, I can even tell you exactly why there is a path from the rest area road to the highway shoulder at that particular location. I-88 at Worcester, NY is very far from a high-traffic area, and if you were in the left lane passing at that point there is no way at all that you could have stopped where you did, if your view of the signs was in fact obscured by another vehicle. Your assumption that we are sticking up for the LEO is silly...he did nothing wrong or ethically questionable that requires a defense. He cited you for a violation which you very definitely committed, and did not decide to inspect your paperwork or vehicle further (and he easily could have, since that was the exact reason they were sitting there in the first place).

Again, you missed the signs for whatever reason, you got a (very small) citation, learn from it and move on. This is a normal operation in the Northeastern states...you're not in Kansas anymore, to be blunt.
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Now, I gotta hand it to you, you "beat" me with your experience and knowledge of the roads. Not.

How about I was passing a line of cars or trucks and then got back to the right lane just in time to see the last sign?

If we're going to use logic, then how about there was a line of trucks that were slowing down for the inspection station and me not knowing what's going on passing them.

Again, I can't recall what happened before I saw the last sign that, mind you, was at the end of the connecting road not at the beginning, because I was just driving, and passing and driving. I don't make mental notes for every vehicle I pass, I just make sure I drive safe and not speed.

tinytim · Apr 19, 2017

If you really feel that you're a poor victim read post 13.

Waste of time though IMO. You messed up, you know you messed up.

Bo Hunt · Apr 19, 2017

Driverdog said: ↑

Ok, thank you for your reply and thanks for having the LEO backs, I'm sure they will appreciate that on your next inspection.

I wasn't on the phone and I was paying attention.

But I can't recall what happened before I saw the last sign, like I said I might've been passing somebody. Sometimes in thick traffic people fail to see the speed limit sign behind other vehicles, it happens all the time. And mind you, the speed limit sign is waaay higher than one of them makeshift sad signs they were using

The presumption of innocence is still in force in the US of A, from what I understand. Beats me why you chose to side with someone else instead of your fellow truckee.

To my defense I want to also add that I've always been running Midwest to West Coast and have never seen any temporary inspection sites
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I grew up in Schenevus, NY, which is the next town West (exit 18, Worcester is 19). Heavy traffic as an excuse is laughable.

bigguns · Apr 19, 2017

The trooper may well have been in the right to cite you for littering. You left bodily fluid on the ground. I am glad to know that most cops don't lump all of us in a group with the likes of you.

scythe08 · Apr 19, 2017

Driverdog said: ↑

I wasn't on the phone and I was paying attention.
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You weren't paying attention. They had 3 signs. It happens. Admit it. Learn from it. Move on.

The neat same exact thing happened to me in Laramie, WY. I knew there was a scale up ahead, but thought it was farther up the road. I was doing a slow pass on another truck and drove right by it as the other guy pulled it lol. I got lit up by red and blues before I even got the truck stopped. Got yelled and made to turn around(could have backed in, I was at the exit) went into the scale, got yelled at again. Got a ticket, same one as you, and moved on. Back in 04 they didn't have CSA yet so it was a non moving violation, a $75 fine.

This was actually a really good example of how complacency can sneak up on you. You think you're being alert, but you have loads of info that you're missing.

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