No line 5 for personal use on elogs

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Meltom, Jun 2, 2011.

  1. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    Look... when it all comes down, a person can file a suit against a ham sandwich. It will probably get thrown out though. If you base everything on whether you can be sued or not in civil court, then by all means catch the first boat to a remote island and do your imitation of Robinson Caruso. Heck, I got a current suit I filed against a family member who is a co-owner of a piece of property that they agreed to a joint sale and then recanted. Suits can be filed on anyone for any reason. You are no safer if you were logging your movements on duty. It is not the duty status they will sue you for, but for something that you failed to do or some other fault. If you were illegally logging, then that would go against you and just help their case. If not, then they will still go after you for what they perceived was negligence on your part.

    There are thousands of lawsuits filed each year against business' even though they were well within regulations. Since that is a fact of life, I am not going to worry about it so much that I do not do what is in fact legal to do. I have unladen liability insurance so if I am off duty and bobtailing around taking care of personal business, so what.
     
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  3. brsims

    brsims Road Train Member

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    I myself am planning a law suit against a veggie platter for making me gassy. I'm demanding pain and suffering compensation! That darned veggie platter made me embarrass myself in public! A pox upon broccili!:biggrin_2559:
     
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  4. lostNfound

    lostNfound Road Train Member

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    Hey, I already said the same thing in Post #12. I'm going to sue you for plagiarism... or something.

    :biggrin_25523:
     
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  5. Injun

    Injun Road Train Member

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    Jerryttd. Your company is following DOT to the letter.

    Companies make it complicated in order to discourage use of line 5. All DOT says about it is you must be unladen and not under dispatch to run a limitted ("reasonable") distance for personal stuff like Walmart, a motel or to get some grub. You may roll off-duty unladen and not under dispatch from your terminal to your home or vice-versa as long as you are not rolling for the purposes of your company.

    Owners and lessors can pretty much do what they want with this. Company guys have to be permitted to by their company.
     
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  6. Injun

    Injun Road Train Member

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    I'm stealin' it!!
     
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  7. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    I'm struggling with the actual defintion of unladen now. I think it just means without a load, but I'm being overridden with it means bobtail.
     
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  8. Injun

    Injun Road Train Member

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    It means an empty trailer with no dispatch on it.
     
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  9. brsims

    brsims Road Train Member

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    When I was with Werner, I could run on personal drive time with an empty trailer heading home. Usually a trip of 400+ miles, since they would send me home from Kalamazoo, MI.
     
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  10. ronin

    ronin Road Train Member

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    There's no statement that requires "bobtail", just not under a load. Like Injun says, empty trailer.
     
  11. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    thanks for the feedback. I advised a driver how to correctly use personal conveyance but that got shot down. On the bright side I think we actually going to make policy.
     
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