No log book

Some choose to use a log rather than the company keeping the time record. Either is fine.

 

Agreed. However, It does suck when I get DOT'd from time to time when they go through my last seven days.

Officer: "What is that logbook on day so and so and why are you on/duty not driving the whole time?"
Me: It's a local logbook.
Officer: "Explain?"
Me: "I started from Point A (South Holland, IL) and ended at Point B (South Holland, IL)
Officer: I guess.

Lmao. I did have an officer give me #### for it though. He's like, where is your 30 minute break. I personally had to tell him that as a local driver for that day, 100 air mile radius drivers do not need to do the 30 minute break anymore ever since 7/14 in the updated CSA Rules. Almost gave me a violation for that but he took my logbook and told me to come with him in his cruiser and he radio'd to his supervisor "Hey, got a driver here telling me that the 30 minute break isnt needed when your a short haul driving for that day, please confirm". Needless to say, it was confirmed and he just handed it back to me.

So yeah, not all really know what the heck is going on... guess you just have to explain it to them.

 

Just for the record if you are driving and logging on duty not driving YOU ARE IN VIOLATION. The only time you can do that is if you do not cross from one city limit to another. Pick/drops in multiple cities must be must be logged with the proper drive time and the proper on duty not driving time. Time spent within one city limit can be logged as on duty not driving.

 

Op, read this and ignore every other post. This is everything you need to know.

Just a few points. Please remember that log book or no log book you must follow hos rules. That means in a busy week if you aren't taking 10 hours between shifts you may not be eligible to drive. The same goes for if you work upward of 70 hours a week. 8 days, really.

Also keep in mind that while it may be safer to follow federal rules, it sounds like they may not apply to you, might be only state laws. I have no idea what states have their own laws, how many duplicate federal laws, and how many, if any, have no laws on intrastate driving.

 

Not 4 Hire has given some great information here and I hope those that do not run a log book read and check everything is in place. It's for your protection and some drivers see no logs and say great while tossing the log book away. It all boils down to protecting your own because ( I have seen it) if the company is held accountable for any mishap the truck you're driving has cause any judicial problems you may find yourself in shock because now you have to battle the ones that you thought would be on your side. It doesn't matter what they tell you when they are in front of a court they will do what whatever they can to place the blame on you and off them. So I suggest that any driver that that is responsible for any legal document check it out and make sure you're covered. It rarely happens but you could go to jail depending.

 

More inaccurate info. If he is in a no log situation he must return to his home terminal within 12 hours, he is limited to 60 hours in seven days. I'm sure he must take a 30 minute break in the first 8 hours of the 12 hour shift.

Good luck on this, lots of info for you to digest.

 

Short haul drivers (local) are exempt from the 30 minute break.

 

Like I said I'm sure on the 30 minute break, not positive, I would check the updated HOS book just to be safe.

 

"
Effective August 2, 2013, FMCSA will no longer enforce 49 CFR 395.3(a)(3)(ii) against any driver that qualifies for either of the “short haul operations” exceptions outlined in 49 CFR 395.1(e)(1) or (2). The Agency requests that State and local enforcement agencies also refrain from enforcing the 30-minute rest break against these drivers. Specifically, the following drivers would not be subject to the 30-minute break requirement:

• • All drivers (CDL and non-CDL) that operate within 100 air-miles of their normal work reporting location and satisfy the time limitations and recordkeeping requirements of 395.1(e)(1).
  • Non-CDL drivers that operate within a 150 air-mile radius of the location where the driver reports for duty and satisfy the time limitations and recordkeeping requirements of 395.1(e)(2).

FMCSA will also be initiating a rulemaking to include text in the HOS regulations noting that the 30 minute break provisions do not apply to short haul drivers."