Norfolk-Intermodal Discussion

Discussion in 'Intermodal Trucking Forum' started by GreenHorn777, Dec 24, 2013.

  1. GreenHorn777

    GreenHorn777 Bobtail Member

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    Since there isn't an intermodal section in the occupation specific section, I figured I would start a thread for intermodal drivers running out of the Norfolk ports for discussion. (I apologize in advance if this would be better suited in a different section).

    I run under my own authority and so far it has been decent. Not making a killing but daily home time and regular freight is nice. The ports can be a pain for sure but nothing a little planning and patience can't handle. I would like to talk to other drivers running under there own authority, specifically if they work with one broker or several.
     
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  3. fld

    fld Medium Load Member

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    I am very interested in doing this myself. Could you answer a few questions for me?

    What is required to pull intermodal freight under your own authority (beyond what is required for van/flat)? Is there any additional expense? Cargo limits?

    Is it all brokers that you work for?

    Is it difficult to stay busy or find loads?

    Is there any money/work running the rail, or do you only run the ports?

    I am sure that it varies from region to region (I am near Phila), but could you give me a range of what you think an o/o could make after fuel?

    Your help will be greatly appreciated!
     
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  4. losttrucker

    losttrucker Road Train Member

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    very few run under their own authority pulling cans
     
  5. fld

    fld Medium Load Member

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    Why is that?
     
  6. Ruckie

    Ruckie Road Train Member

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    because the market is run by big companies specially in the east coast but here in my area theres a lot of smaller companies and use the bigger ones as brokers to protect themselves from lawsuits ect ect!
     
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  7. GreenHorn777

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    I hope that helps a little and I am happy to answer any questions I can. I am also hoping to learn more from this thread and connect with other Norfolk drivers to gain more knowledge.
     
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  8. fld

    fld Medium Load Member

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    Thank you for answering each of my questions.

    I have been looking for information on running intermodal as a mc, but I have found very little.

    I am in a (family) situation that it is best for me to not be gone for days at a time. I have pulled intermodal freight before (mainly rails, some port), and this may be a good fit for me. So, more questions:

    With this company that acts as your broker, how are you dispatched/ how do you find loads?

    Do you negotiate rates for each load?

    Do you receive detention pay?

    What limits do you carry for cargo ins?

    If I understand you correctly, pulling intermodal loads with authority is about finding intermodal broker(s) or a company that can act as a broker. Is this correct?

    To the best of my knowledge, in this area (phila), there is no negotiation with companies that o/os lease on to. Most here pay 70%.

    It also seems to me, and correct me if I am wrong about this, but most or all of this freight come from brokers. So being leased on to a carrier means that the load first came from (at least one) broker, then to the mc, then to the leased on o/o.

    So if the broker takes (20%?), and the mc takes 30% of the remaining 80%, that doesn't leave very much.
     
  9. GreenHorn777

    GreenHorn777 Bobtail Member

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    I'm not sure how each boxes percentages work out but yes the per mile rates to O/O I have seen seem low. The system doesn't seem to allow for someone with their own Authority to get in so I seem to be one of the few doing so around Norfolk at least. I see some trucks without the bigger companies logo though so others are doing it. Prior to doing the intermodal thing, I already had my own DOT/MC authority so I had to do some searching to find the right fit for me.

    Im happy to help with any info I can and I am always interested in learning more about the subject. I hope this thread can achieve both.
     
  10. fld

    fld Medium Load Member

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    There is a way to get to the freight.

    A guy that I knew here in Philly had a connection at the pier. I don't know what department the family member worked in, but he has all the freight he wants from the port. He has opened up a few satellite offices now. His biggest problem is finding more owner operators (to take advantage of- he's a shady character)...

    I have heard that other drivers pay someone to actually pull the freight from the pier. Are you familiar with how this works? Anytime that I went to the port, we just got our load and left.

    Right now, I am looking into the insurance for my authority. I am probably about 6 months away, so I want to get my expenses in order. Even with the research that I have done, I can't really figure what I will make, leased on or with my authority. So, we'll see what happens.

    Hope you had a good, safe holiday.
     
  11. fld

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    Also, in my research, I came across a guy that that also is doing this with his authority. He is an i/c for J.B. Hunt and for CSX. He said that he also had another mc that would broker him freight if needed, but I think he mainly hauls for the other two.

    Like you, he said that he has no problem staying busy, and he is happy with what he is making.

    If I can go the authority route, I think I will do something similar.
     
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