I had a question. I searched it and haven't found anything yet.
So I figured I'd ask the double O's.
I saw a truck at a truck stop the other night that was a custom peterbilt 389 with a stretched frame. It had a wicked paint scheme with the trailer matching. The trailer looked like it was maybe a 45'-48' spread axle reefer. He had no DOT numbers and no other numbers such as MC or VIN numbers on the truck. On the door it said "NOT FOR HIRE" and the trailer had "MT" at the front end where you would find 53' on a 53' trailer.
My question is, what exactly does it mean? Is it that he only drives the tractor trailer to truck shows and has no loads? Does having not for hire on the door and not hauling anything mean you don't have to have a log book?
I know it might seem like a dumb question but Google isn't returning any useful info for me.
Not For Hire?
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by DrtyDiesel, Feb 2, 2012.
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Private carrier or personal vehicle that is not licensed to carry freight.
DrtyDiesel Thanks this. -
Saw one that had that on it pulling a enclosed car carrier. They were telling me about all of the different loads they pickup and deliver. Been seeing more of these.
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A private carrier still needs dot #s, except for some rather gray exemptions in the "hobby" realm, and the # needs to be posted. A private carrier doesn't need operating authority and hence, an MC #. I am a private carrier, and I have never seen anything requiring "not for hire" to be posted on my truck. I think its a holdover from back in the day--used to see it a lot. My friend pulls his RV with a shaker classic bobbed to one axle and registered as an "RV." He put "not for hire" on it, but when I asked why, he could only answer he did it because he thought he wqas supposed to.
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Yes, they are trying to avoid consortium membership, and new entrant safety audits, and HOS records, and driver qualification files, and so on and so on.
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More than likely, the high cost of the insurance and logbooks. They probably have no clue as to the above.
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Being a private carrier would you need to run with a logbook? Or is it considered personal use of the truck and trailer?
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Great explanation
Another example of "not for hire" would be a construction company that owns a semi truck and trailer to move its own equipment from job site to site. They aren't allowed to move anybody elses equipment for money. if they did, then they would be "for hire"
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Being a private carrier doesn't excuse me from HOS. Aside from not needing mc authority, evrything is the same. I just can't charge money to drive stuff around; it has to be my stuff. All the rules still apply. DOT #s properly displayed, lots of records, pee tests and DMV records, all of it.
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Alright, thanks man. Maybe the truck I saw was local only? If he had dot numbers they were so small I didn't see them...?
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